Summary Confessions Of Two Hairy Brown Girls - Naina Bhan and Sakshi Shivdasani (Youtube) youtu.be
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Speaker 0 Hi, guys. Welcome back to Moment of Silence. And, today, I am here to tell y'all and Naina, if she doesn't already know, that girls don't fart.
Speaker 1 That's so true. Yeah. You know what they do do? What?
Speaker 0 Do do. They do not do do. They emit like sprays of glitter. I love that. And, you know, instead of sweating, they, like, trickle we we trickle diamonds instead of sweat.
Speaker 1 And instead of bopping, we have, like, this little, like, waft of orange Tang.
Speaker 0 Oh, how cute. It's cordiest thing. I love all these things that girls just don't do. We also don't have body head at all. We're just like smooth angels with only luscious long locks on our head and eyebrows and nowhere else.
Speaker 0 And everyone is stupid if they actually fucking believe this. I'm Saakshi Shivdasani. And I'm Nana Bhan. Let's get it through. Let's get it done.
Speaker 0 All of that was capped because as we know and as I especially know, I have a lot of body head. Every inch of my body has I have, like, dense body head. Like, I'm there's no deforestation on this body. It's it's thick. Yeah.
Speaker 0 Yeah.
Speaker 1 I don't think that I would have had any personality development if I didn't have body hair Because I was bullied left, right, center for my body. Back, everywhere. Fully, fully, fully. It it you know, they had a they had a page on Facebook, the guys in my grade. And it was pictures of me, and the name of the page was Bhalu.
Speaker 1 Oh, no. So it hits deep. Like, I run body dysmorphia with, like, any fat on my body or anything. But with body health. It's right there.
Speaker 1 It just gets me
Speaker 0 in the gut. Core memory of every brown girl to have been bullied for body hair. I remember 1 time, like, you know, in 8th grade and all, like, we had skirts, and I had not waxed yet. And I was sitting on my chair in school, and then suddenly I looked down and there's, like, 3 dudes just, like, trying to graze my leg hair. And they're like, and I went home and I sobbed.
Speaker 0 Like, it was so traumatic.
Speaker 1 I have this exact story where it's like guys first because I was like a tall girl and I'm sure you've had this where you grew taller faster than the boys. And every summer they would come and they would stand next to me and make me their human measuring tape. Right. And then we started comparing stashes. And then it just progressed to them coming to me in break
Speaker 0 and being like, oh, no.
Speaker 1 Every time they saw me, they'd be like this. And I burnt every image from that time. I just did not want
Speaker 0 to be photographed. Dude, okay. I was going to this birthday party, and I was wearing, like, a dress with a similar neckline to this. And I my we were carpooling me and this guy friend of mine. And he, like, at some point, is looking at me and goes like, you have more chest hair than me.
Speaker 0 Excuse? How dare you? I was so upset. I just my vibe was killed at this 8th grade birthday party. But, did you do you think that helped in, like, get convincing your mom that, yo, this shit needs to fucking go?
Speaker 0 Not in the least.
Speaker 1 And I'm sure everyone agrees. Like, the battle that you have to have with your mother about when you can remove the hair from your body is just it's unending. And I think, why do you take pleasure in me being -Bullied. -Bullied. Like dragged in the mud.
Speaker 1 I come back every day, cry in my room. And she's like, no, We must keep your eyebrows
Speaker 0 1. 1. 1 eyebrow. You only get to earn 2 eyebrows.
Speaker 1 And then there's this whole moral, like, policing with the length to which you can wax your leg when you're growing up. So you never start with the whole leg. You always start with the half. Yeah. Half leg wax.
Speaker 1 Like, who
Speaker 0 is gonna see your thigh? We are just like, you're a whore if we see your thigh. Yeah. So you do not need to wax your thigh. And then, like, y'all I'm not exaggerating how fucking dense my head is.
Speaker 0 Okay? So if I just wax still my knee, there was, like, a India Pakistan border right above my kneecap. So I had to, like, sit with my skirt like this because I just did not want anyone to see that. I start crying.
Speaker 1 It just brought back so many painful memories. I mean, I just remember, like, always being stressed when I was in school and when I was in college. And I thought it would only just be about, like, boys making fun of me. But I feel like I was never even comfortable around girls when I was, like, fully not wags Right. And things like that.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Performing femininity, you know, has so much to do with and feeling womanly has so much to do with not having hair on your body.
Speaker 0 Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Because I feel like the constructs have come up in a way that anything that is opposite to how men are is what's considered attractive to women. So I have essentially felt so masculine my whole life. That I was the vibe of the blue. Yeah. Seriously.
Speaker 0 I'm like, you know, I feel like every girl was just more comfortable when I was around because the onus of being the hairy 1 was straight up on me. Yeah. And, like, I also had the thickest head hair. Yeah. So but who wins?
Speaker 0 But no. No. I remember I before a pool party, I tried to shave my back myself. And I've just gone to this party shaved on the right and on the left, but the middle had left, like, a soul patch on my back because I was like That looks too high. Everyone has done this.
Speaker 0 Yeah. But it was horrible. I finally convinced my mom in 7th grade to let me wax my hands. Okay? Because I had a performance, and I was like, there's no way I'm going on stage moving my hands around and having people see the hair.
Speaker 0 So she was like, fine. Whatever. You know, you've disappointed me gravely, but I'll allow it. And I did it. And fucking ouch.
Speaker 0 How don't people talk about the pain of waxing? This should not be legal. Yeah. Like, it's a cold memory for me. Crying and bleeding and, like, wondering why the fuck I wanted to do this as the first and those waxing ladies put it on and very menacingly stare at you while rubbing it into your skin and then ripping it off with no mercy.
Speaker 0 And I was like, I cannot win this. I either be hairy or in pain.
Speaker 1 Yeah. I remember actually, like, the first time my friend got waxed, I went with her. Her and her mom and I went to the parlor together, and I held her hand, and we both clapped. That's so much.
Speaker 0 She had no hair
Speaker 1 on her arms. It was a huge event in both our lives. I don't know why I was so effective. Because it's
Speaker 0 just like someone has done it. So like, you know, the first woman to pave the way. Yeah.
Speaker 1 To land on the moon. Yeah. And to wax on.
Speaker 0 To wax. Same same difference, bro. Actually, you
Speaker 1 know, when you were talking about it, I was like, every time I go to a shoot, the makeup artist or somebody will tell me you have gorgeous eyebrows. And I'm like, only I know the amount of bullying that it has taken to get to the fact that, okay, now my eyebrows are perfect. Yeah. It's not like you can have perfect eyebrows that are really thick and bushy and not have body language that comes with it. Right?
Speaker 1 Put a finger down or take a drink or smack your head if you have skipped going to a party because you have the
Speaker 0 Everyone has done that. Like, I feel like I would wear, like, full length outfits if I hadn't waxed. Of course, this was when I was much younger. Now I've become quite chill about body hair, where I'm like, and what about it? But, like, I mean, in school, you wouldn't catch me.
Speaker 0 Like, in when I was 16, I remember I used to take, like, the razor, and I used to sit in the shower and shave every single hair on my legs. Now I'll do it in the fucking dark without, like, caring if 1 whole patch on my head.
Speaker 1 Sometimes I'm just sitting in the car in the Uber going somewhere. I'm like, oh.
Speaker 0 Yeah. The full strip. Right. Like like, I just missed that in the razor. But, like, in college, I used to go for these fucking EDM concerts every weekend, and I swear, like, the shortest shots, and I used to literally shave every single thing.
Speaker 0 Like, I don't think the artist was coming with a magnifying glass looking at my legs to see if there was any head. But to me, that was what everyone was looking at in my head.
Speaker 1 So now if you're saying you don't care about it so much, how do you feel in a relationship? Like when you meet a boy or when you're in a long term relationship, what's your relationship with your body hair?
Speaker 0 So, okay. If I know that I'm having sex tonight, I will still go out of my way to shave it, not with that much intensity. But I'm also, like, a shaving person. Right? So, like, you let it grow for 4 days, and you got a little prickly cactus all over your body.
Speaker 0 So just for the comfort that the salami while I doesn't get, like, fucking rug burns from my hair. Just
Speaker 1 so awkward. Like,
Speaker 0 bruises. Scratch while it's
Speaker 1 on sushi.
Speaker 0 Oh, yeah. We have really hot sex, but it's just like my body hair is fucking scraping him like sandpaper. But yeah. So now I'm, like, pretty chill chill about it. But if it was like, if I wasn't in a long term relationship, the first time a dude sees me naked, I'm gonna be fucking chick cut.
Speaker 0 Like, it's not gonna be 1 head on my body. Otherwise, like, I'm just like, you know, my friends and I, when we were, like, hoeing around Yeah. We would be like, oh, I don't wanna fuck tonight, so I'm not gonna shave because then you could not Yes. My pants off my body.
Speaker 1 The biggest hack to having safe sex is to just not wax or shave before you go out on a date. For sure. You just don't hustle.
Speaker 0 Yeah. Like,
Speaker 1 I would rather, like, be horny and alone.
Speaker 0 But, those pants are not being the first time, are you kidding me? My personality cannot carry the onus of that much body.
Speaker 1 And it's also levels of comfort. Right? Especially with your partner. You you I don't know if you do it consciously or subconsciously. You're like, okay.
Speaker 1 Now at this 3 month mark, you can see a little bit of my leg
Speaker 0 here. Right.
Speaker 1 Yeah. At, like, 1 year mark, maybe you can see, you know, some other
Speaker 0 Me and my element. Yeah.
Speaker 1 But how many times has, like, your like, in a romantic moment has your partner come close to you and they're so close to your face, And then you're, like, thinking, can they spot, like Yeah. My mustache? Are they focusing on my facial hair? And it just triggers you. It's just more flashbacks.
Speaker 0 No. But you know that fucking TikTok trend. Right? Where, like, the guy will ask the girl, can I touch your hair? Yeah.
Speaker 0 And she says yes, and he goes and touches her mustache. My boyfriend did that to me recently, and I was like and it started sobbing. It. Yeah. It fucking ruined, bro.
Speaker 0 It was the worst thing. Because, like, now it's all shit. I don't do my upper lip anymore at all because it's not worth the pain. But, I will still shave it sometimes. But, I'm very aware that I have upper lip hair.
Speaker 0 Like, I have a mustache. A lot of makeup artists have been so kind to point it out even when I know. I know. I have thick black hair on my upper lip. Thanks.
Speaker 0 I did not miss it. But yesterday, I was taking a picture of a pimple on my boob. Whatever. And I took a close-up to send to a doctor, and all I could see is her. But nipple hair, you're you think you're the only 1 that has nipple hair?
Speaker 0 Yeah. And, like, everyone is hiding the same silhouette.
Speaker 1 It's crazy. Like, I feel like even if you go on a subreddit for just women, people still won't admit to the kind and the length of body hair that they have.
Speaker 0 Dude, I am surprised I don't have you know, there's only 2 parts of your body where you don't have hair. Where? In my dreams? It's the soul of
Speaker 1 My teeth.
Speaker 0 Yes. And your eyes. Like your eyeball. It's the sole of your hands and the sole of your feet that don't have any body hair. But I wouldn't be surprised if my body was the anomaly and I just had hair on my nails and shit.
Speaker 1 This is my nightmare. I have this nightmare all the time. So thanks God for blessing me with amazing levels of body hair and then also blessing me with baldness. Every year. Can't win.
Speaker 1 You cannot win. Like, how are these my eyebrows? But I have, like, fucking hair falling chronically out of my head. And why is it such a pain point? Especially when you're in front of the camera, like, you know?
Speaker 0 Bro, you can literally see everything on camera. My, the staff working at home very kindly pointed out, unprovoked. She was like, my dog, Sushi. And I was like, you're fucking fired. No.
Speaker 0 No. It was a joke. Guys, don't cancel me. But, tell
Speaker 1 me when you come to, like, oh, maybe you don't have it because you have beautiful head of hair. Like, but every time I go on a shoot and they're like, let's do an updo, I just I'm waiting for them to come with that spray. Right. You know, the hair the blackening spray tooth. Like, hairline touch up clean hairline and it kills
Speaker 0 me. Just a little bit inside. No. I don't have that problem, but I do have gray hair. Like, I've had gray hair since I was 16, and it's just this patch.
Speaker 0 And, like, for that, I'm like, use mascara, use eye shadow, use your own hair, but cover it. I'm not going on camera with white hair. Not even gray is an understatement. My hair's, like, white. So then I have, like, the spray, and I, like, hand it to the hairstylist as I reach on set.
Speaker 0 And I'm like, please fix it. I don't wanna see it. I'm not looking in the middle before it.
Speaker 1 But that's a really big part of, like, any professional life and any professional space. Right? It's not just in front of the camera. I feel like even when you're in, like, a office setup Yeah. Usually, take a lot of time and effort to like, make your hair look prim and proper because it has something to do with your professionality.
Speaker 1 Yes. Like, you cannot walk into an office with grays. You can't walk into an office with unkempt hair because it looks badly on you. And it's just something no 1 will say out
Speaker 0 to you? No. They will. Like, for so, there's this content creator couple. I think they're 50.
Speaker 0 Both have gray hair, and they look stunning. I can't remember the name. If I remembered it, I'll put it in the comments. But the guy is called a silver fox because of his gray hair, and the girl is just called old. And I'm like, the devil stand is pretty fucking clear, but, like and they're both hot as fuck.
Speaker 0 I can't remember their name for the life of me, but, like, women in the workplace are definitely more like if they have, like, gray hair. Even when I was 16, I was called old for having gray hair. So that's that.
Speaker 1 Dude, my my mom, I don't know if she'll be, like, happy with me revealing her whole life and everything, but she really wants to grow her head out and get like, just turn white. Like, can I just move into the next stage of my life in peace? But I think she has, like, a perception that if I come with if I have, like, white hair, I might be perceived as somebody who might not have the kind of energy and stamina to keep up with, like, a an office.
Speaker 0 Oh, yeah. Then I mean, I feel like the discrimination's pretty clear, but in, my mom just did the move last year. And the growing out phase, she was like, I should have just never colored my hair. But now she's got a nice salt and pepper happening, and she's feeling quite liberated. And the like, which is pretty cool, I feel.
Speaker 0 My dad also went gray last year, and he was like, don't talk to me about my hair. But I think they both look pretty hot. Like, I mean, respectfully in a parental way.
Speaker 1 In a parental. Yeah. But I love actually watching those videos on, like, Instagram where, older women suddenly after, like, 40 or 50 years of having the same long hair, go really
Speaker 0 short. Yeah.
Speaker 1 And I love that. And I feel like there's there's a policing with the way women's hair is, you know, like you cannot just cut your hair without there being a reaction. So if you cut your hair really short, somebody asks
Speaker 0 you She's going through it.
Speaker 1 She's going through something. If you color your hair, it means that, you know, you're Wake up. Yes. Yeah. Basically, you can't you can't just cut your hair with no reason without somebody pointing to the fact that your mental health is declining.
Speaker 1 Declining severely.
Speaker 0 Dude, in the last podcast episode, I had red hair. I still do, but it's, like, cool today. But in that 1, I had, like, starkly red hair. And, like, the most hate comments was, like, colored hair. Because it's like the perception that, like, oh, girls with colored hair are fucking crazy.
Speaker 0 Unless they have black luscious locks, they they are not, meant to be respected in
Speaker 1 any way. Yeah. So there was a survey done where they were like 87% of women have been told to not cut their hair short. And I don't know where that extends in a number, but if you have short hair, you're less likely to get a, successful, like, wedding match. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Like matrimonial match. That's fucked up. The thing is that, like, long hair for the longest time or especially in Indian culture is, like, associated with, fertility with the fact that you have a healthy body, you know, childbearing hips. Childbearing hips. You're you're youthful.
Speaker 1 And they're all like, you, you will never see, like, a quintessential Indian woman without that really long Long hair. Yeah. And you will never not see an Indian rebel or like an Indian divorcee or an Indian, you know, career woman without short or curly or colored hair. So I feel like there's, like, such a strong like, you love even with, with, like, seeing hooves and die ins and stuff. Right?
Speaker 1 Have you ever seen a die in with a really sleek, pulled back, outdo?
Speaker 0 I would just not be scared.
Speaker 1 You would just not be You
Speaker 0 know, Ganji Churral. Ganji Churral. That's new. Yeah. That's new.
Speaker 1 But there is such a huge, like, there's there is such a huge perception of how a woman is based on her hair. Hair. If her hair is unkempt and messy, she's lazy. Yeah. She does she's not bothered.
Speaker 0 I've always had curly hair. And, like like, all the girls in my family have had curly hair except 1. So every time we would, like, be at family gatherings, we used to all get a lecture on how our hair should be like that 1 cousin that has straight hair. Bitch, it's your genetics. Like, what are we talking about?
Speaker 0 And then we would wake up on, like, a family vacation, and our hair would be all over the place. And we would just get, like, mocked for 1 hour. There used to be a roast because of our hair. My dad also loves when I straighten my hair. And he will he doesn't even know what I've done.
Speaker 0 Like, he doesn't know whether it's natural or straight. He'll just be like, wow, Saksi. You're looking amazing today. And I'm like, excuse me. It's your genes.
Speaker 0 But, yeah, my dad gave me curly hair. He gave me a big. So I'm like, really, He gave me No.
Speaker 1 My heart goes out to curly haired women. That's Wow. Apart from the 6 steps that you anyway have to do as a woman for your hair care, you have then 5 other things to do because you have to put the leave ins and then you have to straighten and curl your hair with a brush. And last time I went for a
Speaker 0 curly hair consult, the chick told me to finger curl curl her hair. The time? Who has the time? Like, I'm I'm a working woman.
Speaker 1 And then you go and get rebonding done, and then it grows
Speaker 0 up That's the worst way. Dude, that's like that was the hairstyle I rocked for, like, 4 years where I would just go get bonding done. And then it would grow out, and I'd be like, I just don't wanna deal with these girls again. So I would, like, leave them. But it would be like, and then straight, and it was horrible.
Speaker 0 But now I've stopped bonding. I'm accepting myself. I say with Heath style hair currently.
Speaker 1 Tell me something. Did you did you I shave for this episode. Right. But only my hands.
Speaker 0 So that's why I'm wearing
Speaker 1 like a full sleeve shirt.
Speaker 0 I did not shave today, but I did go and get my eyebrows done. And in the process of that, the Palavalli auntie nicked my eyebrow, and then she blamed me. She was like, skin both soft there. I'm like, no, babe. Like, you just you just pulled the mask off.
Speaker 0 Yeah. Like and now I'm just, like, in pain, but, like, at least my eyebrows are done. So I don't know who's winning.
Speaker 1 Dude, a friend of mine, she has really, like, wavy hair and it gets really knotted. And she also, like, uses a little bit of depression. So whenever she's depressed, she you you kind of lose the will to, like, comb your hair. So she has to keep going to the parlor because she needs a team of people to undo the knots in her hair. And she just keeps going to parlor saying, oh, I had COVID.
Speaker 1 That's why I need you to do my hair because she's like, I'm so embarrassed every time I go in because my hair is so knotted. They probably think I'm, like, I'm just, like, terrible at life.
Speaker 0 But you know, at least she's getting the help she needs because that's so much money? Yeah, dude. Look. If I have to get my hair done in a rush, it's just easier for me to straighten it than to curl it because even after finger coiling your entire hand yeah. Your entire and you have to take, like, it like, small sections and do it.
Speaker 0 So even after that, it's a little game of Russian roulette. Like, will my hair set nicely or will it set badly? And I'm not in the business of taking risks. Like, I'm not a gambler, personally. So I just go and say straight.
Speaker 1 To that, I'll add 1 more thing. Suppose you're a curly head woman and you like to go to the gym. When do you wash your hair?
Speaker 0 Dude, when do you wash your hair? Why do you think I wear my bun so often?
Speaker 1 Dude, that's my Roman Empire. Like, if you go to
Speaker 0 the gym, when do you prioritize shampooing your hair? Dude, you just don't. You don't do anything because at some point, it just feels like such a mammoth task to even put your finger through your hair. You just tie it and use dry shampoo till your hair is coming off. It coils and then you're like, ah, time for a hair wash day.
Speaker 0 But it takes 4 hours to dry. At my length, it takes 4 hours to dry. And if I lay down, like, if I put my head against the pillow in the drying process, it's over. It's over. For 4 days, it's fully over.
Speaker 0 Yeah. It's going to stay exactly the way my pillow was on my head. So I just have to sit without back support. And if you know me, I cannot sit without back support for more than 3 seconds total.
Speaker 1 Last time, I got pleasantly drunk because we kept doing take a sip. So this time we're doing the PG 13 version, which is Put a finger down. I have another idea. Snack your head.
Speaker 0 Love it. If you Can I smack your head if I've done it? Yes. You can.
Speaker 1 And I'll smack yours right back.
Speaker 0 I hope you've not done anything.
Speaker 1 Smack your head if you've been ashamed of your unibrow.
Speaker 0 Oh, we're actually smack smack. Excuse me. I have gray hairspray. Please don't smack. You're too hot.
Speaker 1 Smack your head if you've not gone out because you want wax.
Speaker 0 I have not. I just wear full sleeves.
Speaker 1 What a gal. That's right. Oh, yeah. Smack your head if you've pretended not to be horny because you weren't waxed.
Speaker 0 It's like, no. I don't give out on the first date. Clearly.
Speaker 1 Smack your head if you've ever been embarrassed of oil hair. Yeah. Smack your head if you have bald thinking that you were going bald. After that whole fucking period.
Speaker 0 Okay. That was a that just makes me the unluckiest per that just makes me unlucky, not bald.
Speaker 1 Smack your head if you've been made to feel embarrassed about your body here by your.
Speaker 0 These pallor. These are going to some other school to humiliate you. They have a kink for it. I'm sure.
Speaker 1 Smack your head if your if, like, a public viewing of your armpit hair makes you nervous.
Speaker 0 Of course. Why do you think I'm not moving my hands so much in this episode?
Speaker 1 It's just like Smack your head if you cried the first time you got your bikini wax. Actually, I would say smack your head if you left your bikini wax halfway because it was too painful. Smack your head if you actually know the difference between Rekha wax, chocolate wax, honey wax, x y zed wax.
Speaker 0 I don't know the difference. Sorry. I'm smack.
Speaker 1 I'm smack. Okay. And smack your head if you gave yourself pandemic bangs. No. Wow.
Speaker 0 I don't know if the girl got
Speaker 1 1 for the team.
Speaker 0 What's your body hair removal method of choice?
Speaker 1 Waxing, but, you have to shave, man, with shoot skates. What about you?
Speaker 0 So I used to wax for a bit and, like, it's the best in terms of longevity, but it is so painful. And I don't know, like, I don't know if, like, I was the only 1, but I used to get, like, these red spots all over my body when I used to wax. And then for 1 week, I couldn't wear anything sleeveless just because it looked like I was, like, allergic to something. Like, I would have a really bad reaction. And then by the time I could wear sleeveless, little, little hair had started growing.
Speaker 0 So then I was like, I'm just gonna shave Yeah. As per my convenience and schedule and just, stop waxing. But I did try a bikini wax once after I had stopped waxing just because I thought it would be so fun to try it. Spoiler alert.
Speaker 1 It was anything but fun. Dude, if you make the mistake of hitting the area with a razor and then going to wax, I have never felt oh, like, I don't know what hell looks like, but I feel like I saw flashes of it. Yeah. Dude, I was just screaming, screaming, screaming, and the woman also like takes you through it. Yeah.
Speaker 0 Don't worry about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 I went to this 1 salon and the lady called, my vagina a poo poo. She's like, how poo poo waxed?
Speaker 0 How cute that she made it sound.
Speaker 1 You're proceeding to me like Bro. Screaming, like, dawg and everything.
Speaker 0 Dude, I stopped half way. I came with a half wax poo poo. I was like, enough. It's done. Like, I I just, because I achieved for, like, 6 years and then, like, I was like, let's Let's try.
Speaker 0 Let's switch things up. This was post COVID. So, like, I just had in shape for a while, and I was like, it's time. And I cried multiple times. I swore at the waxing lady, and she was like, it's not that painful.
Speaker 0 And I was like, you don't know my experience. And she was like, I'm not And I was like, that's fine. I'm just not cut out for waxing my poo poo.
Speaker 1 That's just gonna be what it's called me. Yeah. So I don't understand why waxing women want to keep selling you this service. Like, they has this happened to you? Every time I'm getting my body wet and I'm not, like, doing going for the poo poo.
Speaker 1 They're like, And I'm like, why? She's like, why? That's how it should be.
Speaker 0 They make money. I'll tell you about this concept called Captisol. That's true. No. You know, the like, I get the areas of waxing thing is 1.
Speaker 0 But, like, the basic wax hurts. Chocolate wax does not hurt because it's 5,000 rupees more. That's such a scam. Like, they send you sugar wax, chocolate wax, and every time you pay for the more expensive 1, they'd be like, yeah. This is not the best 1.
Speaker 0 Which is not the 1. Yeah. Which is grote.
Speaker 1 Yeah. And they're like so good at their jobs. But does anyone, including the waxy woman know the difference between rica, white chocolate, brown chocolate, honey, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. No. During my time.
Speaker 1 Back in my
Speaker 0 No worries.
Speaker 1 When there was only honey wax available and they used to cut out strips of cloth And they used to wax you with cloth. What? Yes.
Speaker 0 I don't think that's ever happened.
Speaker 1 It did.
Speaker 0 It did. We don't have that much
Speaker 1 of an issue. If you are my age or above and you remember this happening when you first went to the parlor and she waxed you with, like, pieces of cotton cloth, Drop in the comments below.
Speaker 0 I don't think my mom is watching this podcast who's gonna relate to this ancient time experience, ma'am? Okay. Fine. Fine. This never happened.
Speaker 0 Do you know Whatever.
Speaker 1 What about laser? Have you done laser?
Speaker 0 I have done only bikini laser. I was sick of having hair on my poo poo.
Speaker 1 Can we do a poo poo counter?
Speaker 0 Yeah. Yeah. Since I'm not editing it, go ahead. Do whatever you want in bed. But, I did 6 sessions of, bikini laser.
Speaker 0 I did it from a because how dare I have to step out of my house to do anything. Right? And it was fine. It was chill. The lady was very nice.
Speaker 0 The first 3 sessions were easy breezy. The next 3 sessions were not so pleasant. It they, like, upped the intensity, and, like, they keep zapping your poo poo. It's just horrible. But, like, I stopped at some point because it was draining my bank account, and I wanted to buy other things with the 20,000 I was spending on bikini laser.
Speaker 0 And I'd it it reduced my, like, growth by 40 40 to 50%. Maybe I need to reignite my savings to get more bikini laser fashion.
Speaker 1 Bad. Yeah. I did face, and I did underarms. Oh. Underarms or, like, anywhere you pick growth or whatever, I would really recommend it.
Speaker 1 It's life changing.
Speaker 0 Yeah.
Speaker 1 But face, unless you really have, like, a lot of growth, you actually end up doubling the hair because it only works on hard hair. So they have fine hair and they shave you and then they laser. That hair starts becoming
Speaker 0 hard. That's I remember I'd waxed my face once and, like, because I have got these side locks and this forehead have, like, to the point that every time I go for threading of my eyebrows, she'd be like, forehead? Forehead?
Speaker 1 And they charge you extra, yeah, $150 for your forehead.
Speaker 0 Yeah. I'm like, no. Don't touch my forehead. I can't sit through the pain. But I did, like, wax my, face once, the worst case of acne in the history of my life.
Speaker 0 And I had, like, I was, like, my face was pimped out at with pimples at some point. That was my attempt at wordplay. Oh, nice.
Speaker 1 Like, where is this going?
Speaker 0 Yeah. I was, like, pimped. That's where it went. I was pimped out. But, Yeah.
Speaker 0 I just had the worst acne. I didn't step out for, like, a week because it was just such a stupid decision to make.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 0 And my mom was like, what the fuck? Why did you do this shit?
Speaker 1 And I was like, yeah. You know, sometimes when you're like you're going to like, you're gonna meet a guy, especially, like, when I was younger Yeah. Whatever. But and you wanna be conspicuous, so you go for, like, the back wax and the stomach wax. And then you have the thickest reaction, and your back is covered in, like, spots in your stomach.
Speaker 1 And then it's worse than when you had
Speaker 0 it. Yeah. It's like the head, he would have moved past. Yeah. How is he gonna move past?
Speaker 1 Like, wow. She's got a stomach acne.
Speaker 0 Hey. I get acne on my boobs sometimes, like, current me. But,
Speaker 1 razor razor. Let's go in for the razor.
Speaker 0 That's my hair removal technique of choice, actually. It is so convenient. Very convenient. It is so convenient. That's the only yeah.
Speaker 1 And it's very convenient.
Speaker 0 But those are the only pros because, like, your hair will grow back prickly. I don't think there's more growth or thicker growth on the body, at least for me. I think that's, like that that is a common experience for a lot of people. For me, it comes back the same, but it definitely is prickly af. And, I sometimes cannot sleep with shorts on because 2.
Speaker 1 I was gonna ask you. What happens to the poo poo on day, like, 2 or 3?
Speaker 0 I don't wanna talk about it. Dude, it's like like, I cannot tolerate the prickliness of like, actually, my legs are the things that bother me. The poo poo is fine. She's thriving after the bikini laser. But Oh, yes.
Speaker 0 Like, the legs, I have to, like, put a pillow between my calves because otherwise, I'll wake up with rug bugs.
Speaker 1 Oh. Yeah. What about for your male pattern baldness that both of oh, you don't suffer. I suffer from
Speaker 0 You suffer from male pattern.
Speaker 1 I feel like at the rate that my hair is
Speaker 0 falling off. A donut.
Speaker 1 I'm getting something. Nothing I've done has helped it, and I've done a lot of things.
Speaker 0 Right.
Speaker 1 I've done okay. Of course, like the basic, like Microni. Serums and things like that.
Speaker 0 Oh, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1 There was 1 from L'Oreal, like this Amexcel treatment that worked for me once. I did acupuncture, which kind of helped.
Speaker 0 Right. That's microneedling. No. That's literally you lie on a
Speaker 1 bed and they put needles into your head for half an hour. You just And then your hair grows. Yeah. Or it stops falling. Okay.
Speaker 1 I did the micro needling. It feels like your head is bulldozer. Right. Because it's just needles puncturing serum into your head at, like, this really hard base.
Speaker 0 So I I don't know if you remember, but in 2020, I went on a shoot and my head got, like, super burnt. And it fell off because I'd done bonding and bleaching, and that salon fucking sucked. So I got, like my hair fell from, like, 3 inches off my scalp. So I tried to go in for microneedling and everything, but they were like, the problem is not your scalp. It's just the rate of growth.
Speaker 0 So there's literally nothing you can do about it. So just suffer for a year till it grows out. So I did suffer for a year till it grows out. But it was like I was like, listen. Tell me.
Speaker 0 Like, name a price because at this point, I'm pretty price agnostic. I just want my hair back. And they were like, there's literally nothing you can do except wait for it to grow out. Like, coconut oil, sure, if you feel better about it. Rosemary oil, go for it, babe.
Speaker 0 It that's not harming you, but it's not doing anything for you.
Speaker 1 Do you trust this whole, like, using Ayurvedic oil? Because the dermatologist or what is a hair doctor called?
Speaker 0 Psychologist.
Speaker 1 Yeah. They tell you not to oil your hair when your hair is falling.
Speaker 0 Oh, really? Yeah. So someone told me to use forest, kama, Ayurveda, brigandhi Yes.
Speaker 1 I've tried that.
Speaker 0 To reverse my graying. And they were like, you're just not a believer. That's why it's not working for you. And I was like, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1 That's like That's beyond science.
Speaker 0 I have to manifest for my hair oil to work. No fucking way.
Speaker 1 No 1 put that on the label.
Speaker 0 Yeah. Be a believer. I was like, this is a load of bullshit. This 1200 rupee bottle that has a very strong smell. Very strong smell.
Speaker 0 Yeah. You know what has
Speaker 1 a strong smell? I used to use onion water. It did help once or twice, but you literally take an onion and you blend it with a little bit of water and then you strain it and then you put that pungent juice on your scalp and you keep it overnight. And you basically are single through the process because no 1 wants to put up with the way you stink through the night. And every sheet and everything, you're also tearing up from the vapors of the onion.
Speaker 0 But your hair might grow back.
Speaker 1 Yeah. So you so
Speaker 0 you will suffer.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 0 So, apparently, that works if your hair fall is not genetic. But if it's genetic, then it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 Then you just wait. Then you
Speaker 0 tell a joke. Then you go to Turkey and get a hair transplant.
Speaker 1 I really want a hair transplant.
Speaker 0 You don't need a hair transplant.
Speaker 1 Me till I put my hair up in a ponytail. I really want a hair. That's the other thing, dude. Like in our industry, right, most women are wearing extensions. Right.
Speaker 1 And you never see them without their extensions. So you're like, is it a prerequisite to have, like, this Beautiful beautiful overhead to be like a Bollywood or like a South Indian actress.
Speaker 0 You just get some niche hair.
Speaker 1 Dude, I ordered niche hair on Blinkit. And I didn't read the I wanted bangs. Right. I was like, instead of cutting them this time, let me just buy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 And it has these really weird blonde streaks, and I never
Speaker 0 saw it.
Speaker 1 No. So now it's just it's just lying there. It's little mustache.
Speaker 0 Dude, I fucking love the niche hair doughnut. Yes. Like, because when I tie my hair back, it's got a little Yeah. Chicken vibe happening. But with the dough hair doughnut, I look like a babe.
Speaker 0 Like, I can do the Hailey Bieber sneak bun and all with
Speaker 1 a bob. But I also feel like, you know, like growing up, there was this whole thing about, like, oiling your hair and your mother would oil your hair and it would be really embarrassing. I don't know if it happened for you, but I would get damn embarrassed if I had to go to school the next day with like With oil hair. Yeah. Same.
Speaker 1 Braided hair and things like that. And there were a lot of, like, Indian traditions that I stepped the fuck away from. And then yesterday, I saw Kim Kardashian on The View talking about her hair maintenance. And she's figured out this really crazy thing where she's like, sometimes when I have blonde hair, I just dunk it into, like, a bottle of coconut oil. It's amazing for your hair.
Speaker 1 And they were all clapping. Yeah.
Speaker 0 She discovered it. And it's like
Speaker 1 I was like, bitch.
Speaker 0 Ready to throw hands, bro.
Speaker 1 Dude, I love how, like, people can just appropriate, like, a culture and make it cool and sell it back
Speaker 0 to you. That was shit that I was bullied for. Like, if
Speaker 1 it was just like
Speaker 0 a cool thing, like, she didn't invent it. We invented it. And, like, you know, especially that coquette fucking boat trend where, like, you play plat.
Speaker 1 And then you turn it up and you turn
Speaker 0 it up. That's like the OG school girl hairstyle, which, like, we were definitely made fun of.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Imagine if you were caught dead in school with that hairstyle, you it was over. Yeah. It was over for you. Just that kind of What did you how did you wear your hair in school?
Speaker 0 So we had this white hairband policy. Okay? So whatever you do, you have to wear a white hairband. And my mom, okay, god bless her. She did her best, but she didn't have curly hair neither does my dad.
Speaker 0 So she was, like, figuring it out as she went with me and my sister. So she didn't know what to do for flyaways and all because we refuse to use coconut oil. So I would tie a ponytail and wear a hairband even though my hair was pretty short. And, like, guys during class used to, like, try to put pencils in my hair and everything, and the worst part is the pencil used to fucking stay. I used to go home and I used to discover, like, sharpeners and erasers in my hair because it was just so dense.
Speaker 0 And, like, they used to call me, like, a bunny rabbit tail and all because of the Because of the hair. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Oh, how interesting.
Speaker 0 Yeah. What did you do?
Speaker 1 I'm trying to think, you know, like, again, when I was a teenager, that was a time when you all of you all women or most women or I myself alone was really trying to perform like my femininity. So I tried to, like, evade school rules as many ways that I could. So I got, like, a really nice step haircut. And, you know, if you are, like, a girly girl, you leave like a bang. You leave like something.
Speaker 0 You have
Speaker 1 to pull out a little bit of your hair or you rebel by putting, like, colorful clips even though you can only wear black lips. And to the extent of it is that I think that's what I did. And I always think about, like, how essential it is for a person to not have body hair and to have, like, really thick, luscious hair to, like, you to kind of really feel feminine. You know what I mean?
Speaker 0 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Like even when people are, transitioning, the first steps that you take even before you go into, like, a, like a surgery is you start removing hair and you start growing your
Speaker 0 hair out? Well, it's also that I mean so have you seen that thing where, like, your makeup may or may not be done? But unless your hair is looking good, you are not going to look good. That's true. However you do it, whether it's sleek, whether it's open, your hair defines more about your appearance than any other feature.
Speaker 0 Like, I remember when, like, my hair had, like, fucking fallen off, I was like, just keep these 2 strands, the front ones, because I felt like if I could frame my face, I would be sorted. Now, again, it was very damaged looking, so it did not work. But, like, I just could not, like, be fully, like, boy cut because of the word boy in the boy cut. Yeah.
Speaker 1 It's a pixie now. Oh, sorry.
Speaker 0 Sorry. I can't keep up. But, now it's trendy, but, like, it's not my hairstyle of choice.
Speaker 1 I think when your hair fell out, I was watching, you know, your posts on Instagram and I think you single handedly united like the women of India because everyone felt that fear deep in their gut. Yeah. And I watched your journey of hair growth back like a stalker because I was like, how is she dealing with this? I would have lost my shit. Like, I would have been For sure.
Speaker 0 Depressed. I was. I didn't come out of my room for 1 month. Like, November 2020, I just didn't post anything. Like, I'm and after that, my account fucking stagnated for 6 months.
Speaker 0 I deserve count compensation, which I'm never going to fight for because I'm too much of
Speaker 1 a fad too. But I do deserve compensation. On my delayed flight back from Delhi to Bombay, I sat and I did the breakdown. How much money you spend on hair care? Okay.
Speaker 1 So if I'm looking at full body waxing, 2,000 in the 12. 2424,000. Right. For what you're asking at its cheapest is 2,000. That's 12 times a year.
Speaker 1 That's 24,000. Shampoo, 500 into 6, maybe 1 bottle per 2 months. Sure. 3000, same with conditioner, 3,000. Haircut, $700 a haircut into 2, let's say.
Speaker 1 So that's 1400. Then you do a spa or a blow dry or a treatment. I'm compounding that rate at 8,000. And then you buy fucking stupid accessories that you never put on your head, like the ribbons and pillowcase. I'm gonna put that at a1000.
Speaker 1 Sure. At its most conservative, that's about 50,000 rupees. That's 50,000 rupees you spend on your body that a man is gonna spend setting up his gaming station. Free to do whatever he wants to do.
Speaker 0 I would do so much if I had 50,000 extra rupees a year. Like, buy 1. No. I would I would, like, get a hobby. Like, you know, an expensive ish I would do, like, horse riding.
Speaker 0 Yeah. No. I would I would learn how to scuba dive. Yeah. That's fair.
Speaker 1 You can take a fucking trip like that.
Speaker 0 That would damage my hair more, and then I would have to come back into another hair spa. Wow. What a vicious cycle.
Speaker 1 Lovely day.
Speaker 0 Anyway and also the time. Right? Like, it takes so much time to worry about your hair, especially if some idiot recommends finger coiling to you. Well, I have spent more time on my hair than you guys have spent watching this podcast. That is a waste of
Speaker 1 You can't just wake up in the morning, wash your face, and show up at work. If you ask the average dude, when you wake up in the morning to get to work at 8 o'clock 7:55.
Speaker 0 7:15. Yeah.
Speaker 1 And you're at work looking fresh. You just threw on some Axe body spray and good to go.
Speaker 0 Just yeah. And how much does an Axe body spray cost? 1.50? Yeah. I don't know anything.
Speaker 1 I know women will spend, like, an will how do you get to work at 8 AM? You have to wake up at 6.
Speaker 0 Yeah. 1st, you have
Speaker 1 to live with your thoughts. Yeah. Another day in this body, why?
Speaker 0 To put that fucking hair wax to get that Chapta sleek hair bun.
Speaker 1 How much time does it take you to do low maintenance? Didn't touch my hair, but touched my hair look.
Speaker 0 35 minutes, I would say.
Speaker 1 A messy bun that looked like nothing was done. Right. It looks like takes like 40 minutes.
Speaker 0 And I have short hair also. But anyway So sorry. Sorry, darling.
Speaker 1 I was just thinking about this. Okay? So if I'm go if I'm an actress going to shoot a film and I get a per day cost of x. Okay? And my male co actor also, let's say, gets x.
Speaker 1 Okay? Yeah. I'm showing up every day to set 1 and a half hours earlier to get my hair and makeup. That means instead of being paid for 12 hours x, I get paid x for
Speaker 0 13 and
Speaker 1 a half hours. And when you compound that, that's a fucking discounted rate. Facts. Yeah. That's true.
Speaker 1 I That's a lot of your time that you gave to production with no questions asked because you also want to look good on set. You also want to look your best in a film, but you are, like, taking that out. And then there's also the maintenance. Of course, they blow dry in your hair all the time. It's just the downward battle.
Speaker 0 And then you see the guys, they just come sit on the chair and they do Dude. And they get spikes and then they're like buzz buzz buzz. And then they are let go.
Speaker 1 If I could take a shot for every time I walked into, like, my male co actors vanity and he was doing his hair and makeup and he just did let go. I would
Speaker 0 be drunk. Alcohol poisoning up in this bitch. Yeah.
Speaker 1 So I feel like it's just, in any direction whether you're at work or you're in school or Or chilling and retiring.
Speaker 0 Yeah. You just there's just so much time gone into thinking about your hair. Yeah. Let's take a moment of silence for all the time and money and thoughts we have spent thinking, doing, removing all our body hair and putting all our head hair. But we will not actually make you all take a moment of silence in this audio format with you.
Speaker 0 So just go and ponder about this, and thank you for watching this very hairy episode. See you all next week. Bye.