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Speaker 0 So I've been filming the slingshot training program all winter. In here, I have a new website coming. I'm gonna have a fully take home comprehensive back leg, slingshot disc golf program. And I thought this would be a good time. To make a comprehensive back leg disc golf video.
Speaker 0 I usually like to keep my video short. This might be a longer video Try to stick around to the end because I'm gonna give you a full breakdown of what back leg disc golf is. I'm gonna compare it to front leg disc golf. You will not be confused after this video? Let's get into it.
Speaker 0 Some good turf. Is there more than 1 way to do this? I think it's that way in all aspects of life. There's always more than 1 way to do it. So front leg versus back disc golf, there's no right or wrong.
Speaker 0 They are 2 very different things. I don't like to use scientific terms, but bio mechanically. They are 100 percent different. First things first, what is back leg disc golf? And why did I bring it to the Internet?
Speaker 0 Is it twisting the leg, pushing off with the leg, rotating on the back leg, versus an inactive back leg that acts as a counter weight. That is not what back leg disc golf is. Back leg disc golf verse front leg disc golf is all about coil. It's about winding up to get the most out of your body. To achieve your full potential for effortless distance.
Speaker 0 There's always a bunch of different ways to do things, a lot of gray area But in general, there is 2 ways to coil up your body. These are the 2 ways that are taught. I got the slingshot stick here. These are coming soon. Number 1 is the shoulder coil.
Speaker 0 And this works along with the back swing. They're the same thing in 1 way or another. Coil your shoulders means taking your shoulders up here and turning them backwards. Right? You're coil up your shoulders.
Speaker 0 And that's what you're doing. You are coil the shoulders, so it is a way to coil. The back swing is a shoulder coil as well. When you coil the shoulders, 2 things happened. 1, you're gonna have this shoulder, fly back here, It's gonna look like this, I call it the sailboat because in terms of un coil, which means spinning fast and creating power, you're gonna go slower because this is gonna be working against, I don't know the wind.
Speaker 0 And when you pull through or go in and out. However you do it with the arm, it's gonna look like this. Look at your own form as I go along here and look for these things. From the side, it would look like this. This is Preston.
Speaker 0 This is a really easy example. You can check out his before and after, I'll leave a link in the description to that video. This is a pretty extreme example that most beginners look like. Turn the shoulder back opens the hip. And that's that power pocket through that I'm talking about.
Speaker 0 Where all this is behind. That's when I was 100 percent front leg and working on nothing but front leg techniques. Coming through the power pocket off side, not engaged at all. The next thing that happens when you coil the shoulders, is it opens your back hip. This is a closed hip in relation to my target.
Speaker 0 Shoulder coil, this is an open hip right there. When you coil the shoulders, how I'm talking about, Like that, the hip opening, the shoulders being turned around this much. You deactivated the core. You're not gonna feel anything in the core area, The lower back, to stomach, the oblique, your left glut, you're not gonna feel a stretch there. Because you're not coil those muscles.
Speaker 0 The second type of coil, what I teach in back leg disc golf, slingshot disc golf, I call it the core coil, for lack of a better term yet. In this movement, you lock up your back hip. You don't turn your shoulders and you only turn right here When you do it this way, you're coil against this back leg. I turn my shoulders, they moved with it. Right now, my back leg is shiver because I am coil against my leg.
Speaker 0 I am using the force of the ground. To resist this coil. I'm coil right there because I kept the hip right here. As I coil, I can feel pressure in this hip because I'm loaded against it. I'm feeling a stretch throughout my whole stomach.
Speaker 0 My lower back, my glut, the weight and pressure has shifted to this leg I am loaded. Coil this way connects all these muscles that are in the center of your body. Coil against that leg, I now can feel a stretch in my glut, a little bit in my ham string, and it moves up to the lower left back because the way that I teach to do it, is to take your lower left back, and turn it towards the target. I have a lot of other teaching cues. Everybody learns differently.
Speaker 0 Right here, right here, right here. I have wound up my mid section, connected it with my leg. When you add the extension, Coiled can feel it from here all the way to here. When I extend, now that stretch goes up to here. My whole body from here, all the way to hear is fully stretched, ready to unwind.
Speaker 0 And that's how you get your arm to move twice as fast as you ever could with your arm or your upper body. That is the stretch reflex. That allows someone like Paul mc bath to throw 600 feet at 5 foot 8. Alright. Here's the middle of 20 20 somewhere in my form progression.
Speaker 0 I was actually doing a lot of good things here. My form was coming along, but I could not figure out how to get this off arm engaged. I could not figure it out. Look at how far back I turn my shoulders right here, and it opens my hip, This is way less drastic, but you can see on the right, how I just throw my left shoulder at the target. I was coil the shoulders.
Speaker 0 It was opening the back hip. Now I've created the sailboat, and he's already rotating his arm still going back. So he's creating a slingshot, and I'm just whipping it with my arm. Somewhat recent clip in my form. I'm never happy with it.
Speaker 0 Obviously not as pretty as polls. It may look like my shoulders coil, but they don't. That's just me using my off arm, but I am not turning them. And now I can get the off farm to go in. Once I stopped coil my shoulders, that hips stopped opening up, and I was able to actually create a slingshot with my off side.
Speaker 0 I'm gonna talk about rotating with the back foot later in the video, but I'm pushing in right now. With the force of the ground, and it's not even close to how much Paul is pushing in. Alright. We got the goat. We got the terminator and we got representative of Wilson market.
Speaker 0 Hip closed, hip closed, off arm in, the shoulders will get to where you want them to go without you having to turn them. Otherwise, you're going to deactivate the coil. Now I'm gonna talk about the stretch reflex versus rounding. Look at your own form and really try to identify this. When you do a shoulder coil, you're not getting the stretch reflex from here, all the way to here.
Speaker 0 That stretch reflex is really felt from the tip of the extension to that 90 degrees that can be known as the power pocket. Now if you get that stretch reflects the power pocket doesn't make sense anymore because it literally jumps on its own from the tip of the reach back. What I see most of the time when it comes to this back swing or shoulder coil, keep an eye in your own form and learn to see it in others, you coil the shoulders, and you'll see this motion of in and out as a swing. In the most extreme cases, you'll see someone coiled to here, they'll swing right here in and out, and that is rounding going around your body. But in my opinion, if you get it away from your body, you swing it in and out, that's still rounding.
Speaker 0 When you coil and you extend, the way I'm talking about with this full stretch reflex, you're not gonna see that swoop. Because your extension is gonna snap straight back to here in and out. It will be boom boom, coil your shoulders, you don't activate that stretch reflex. What happens is you get here, and now you're forced to accelerate with your arm. So you end up with that action.
Speaker 0 Now, let's talk about if you actively push or turn with the leg. Or if you don't. When you coil with your core against your leg against the force of the ground. My leg is resisting my coil and I'm pushing against my leg. Now I'm coil and stretching against my leg.
Speaker 0 My leg is resisting the coil with the ground forced. I am now what I call loaded. Now, Paul Mc, Aaron judge, tire woods, They all coil this way. If you don't use that back leg. To turn in, you can't un coil.
Speaker 0 It doesn't work. When you coil against the back leg, and you push in, it pulls on this glut, which pulls on this back, which pulls on the upper back, which unwind the whole stretch reflex. You have to use the back leg to help with that. Now, let me be very clear. It is not a twist.
Speaker 0 It is not a push. It is a combination of those 2. It is a push in. You have momentum. So after you push in, your leg will come off the ground.
Speaker 0 That's the big difference between baseball and disc golf or golf and disc golf is you're dealing with momentum and a massive follow through because you're using your body in a much more extreme way, so you come off the ground. In front leg disc golf, when you coil the shoulder, You're not loading the lake. You're not creating that coil in that stretch reflex that connects the whole body, which means you can come back. Without ever using that back leg, You don't need it to un coil. That's why you don't have to use the back leg and it just slips and acts as a counter weight.
Speaker 0 Like I said, this is a way to do it. 1 thing you'll notice is you'll see this position a lot. But you won't see that position. And if you really compare that back leg at certain moments to someone like a paul mc bath, you're gonna see a difference in that positioning. When you're studying in your own form, really take a look at the power pocket stage because if you're using Front leg disc golf techniques you will never see this leg or this foot pointing in and making this shape unless you are actively making this shape.
Speaker 0 That's what all front leg disc golfers that I have seen look like to some degree. There could be some cases here and their butt I don't remember them or I haven't seen them. The power pocket position I am talking about when you do not actively turn the leg. When you get to that 90, you will not see that. We could go through a lot of them.
Speaker 0 90 degrees leg pointed in. No pressure here yet. Toes already cri, toe doesn't crinkle if you're not pushing in. 90 degree, and. Foot facing that way.
Speaker 0 Knee pointed in, pointed in. Remember, I was a front leg disc golfer for for months you have to actively use ground force and push in for that leg to make that shape. You cannot make that shape like that. It has to go like that. Paul may bath, coils, while balancing on 1 leg.
Speaker 0 X step, He been physician, coil. Extend, now you're loaded, now you wanna load. The Johnny Ringo drill is 1 of the staple drills in my training program. You balance on 1 leg and you coil. That's all it is.
Speaker 0 That's the coil. That's the stretch. We don't do that in this method. And you have to make that happen during the x step, which means you need to develop some incredible coordination and balance on your back leg. To be able to do this, Boom, that is extremely difficult to do.
Speaker 0 Not only because of the technique itself, it's because we're playing baseball left handed now. Or right handed if you're lefty. Disc golf is really cruel in that way in my opinion because most baseball players who watch my channel get it They're like, okay, this is a baseball swing, and then they totally understand that you're you're forced to do it with your off leg. And that is no joke. That's that's brutal.
Speaker 0 Because if you want to do back this golf, you have to understand that this could take 6 months to a year to get down. That's why front leg disc golf is a way to do it because if you have a full time job, you have a full time life. Maybe if screws in your hip, maybe you don't have time to spend a year developing coordination and athletic and strength in your off leg. And that brings up the question of which 1 is easier. Well, everything I just talked about makes Back leg disc golf extremely difficult.
Speaker 0 Front leg disc golf can be learned quickly because we're not all in a position to develop that back leg, develop athletic, develop this stretch because everything that I'm talking about is so much more physically demanding to a point that I don't think everybody will be able to do it. That's why it's important to have multiple ways to do it. Because it is cruel. You are forced to go on a leg doesn't have any strength. You're forced to stretch and coil your whole body into a slingshot if you don't have that kind of flexibility here, it's gonna hurt.
Speaker 0 You might not be able to get there. I gained 02:50 feet. In 20 20 when I uploaded my channel. What you don't know is that I lost 46 pounds doing that. I pushed myself athletic in the gym with yoga and with explosive speed training because I was no longer going like this.
Speaker 0 Now I was going like this and doing it during a run up. I had to become an athlete to hit those distances, Now, when you do a shoulder coil or a backs swing, you can go anywhere you want. There is no governor. Of flexibility. You can go here.
Speaker 0 You can go here. You're not pushing flexibility. In fact, you have taken flexibility out of it, When you coil like that, you can only go as far as you are flexible. That's why these young athletic professional disc golfers can grow so far because they have that flexibility to be able to get to that position. Back Disc golf is complicated and very physically demanding.
Speaker 0 You have to be built different for this. You have to have a hunger and you have to have that athletic mindset, and you have to understand it. This is a different sport. Front leg and back leg Disc golf are different sports entirely. The movement doesn't feel the same.
Speaker 0 You're gonna have to relearn accuracy. You're gonna have to get really bad before you can get good, and you might have to work on this for a year. But this is how you reach your full potential, which is gonna be rare. This is high level form. This golf is also a leisure activity.
Speaker 0 So front leg disc golf is a way to get out there and just do it because it's not just about form. Right? It's about putting. It's about plastic. It's about different shots.
Speaker 0 It's about being off your phone being with your friends. That's why there's multiple ways to do it so you can get out there and have fun, plain because it is golf. A lot of aspects of the game. The last thing I wanna talk about is injury prevention, which style causes injury and which style is safer. Or more dangerous.
Speaker 0 First of all, Kevin durant pulled his achilles by taking a step backwards. Paul Mc with perfect form could suffer an injury. So could your gibson? They all can. Front leg back leg, if you have plastic in your hand, you're playing a sport, you can get hurt.
Speaker 0 In front leg disc golf, you brace all your weight on this front leg. And then you rotate on top of the leg. So you're putting weight into your leg over and over again, and then you're rotating directly on top of it. That can cause all sorts of injuries. So you can't pretend like that is just safe.
Speaker 0 The way I'm teaching it. Now, you're coil, you're rotating through the power window, which is what I call it, You're done. This leg braces your rotation. You're pretty much rotating into this leg. The power is done at this point.
Speaker 0 Your arm will whip, and this is a subconscious foot opening that releases energy and then you follow through. The reason that this is subconscious and why that actually makes sense is because these pros are spinning so unbelievably powerfully and fast and quick there is absolutely no time to put conscious thought into this leg. Myself, I haven't thought about this leg in years. It does its own thing. I coil and I load and I explode.
Speaker 0 This, if it opens, that means I had enough, power for it to open. If it doesn't open, That means I didn't have enough power. I don't think about it. That right there is terrifying. Because this is our knees we're talking about.
Speaker 0 You gotta remember that I was a front leg disc golfer for months, and my knee was always hurting. Now the way I do it now, I've never once suffered an injury, but if you try to learn this way. And you go too fast, and you're not strong enough, and you overdo it. You absolutely can suffer an injury. This is a long development Now, this move allows you to be way more explosive than front leg disc golf, which means you're quicker.
Speaker 0 You're stronger, you are susceptible to an injury. When you do an explosive movement, you're always at risk, for injury. That's why you have to stretch. You have to warm up. You have to be physically conditioned, Trying to do it like this when you're not, is not the safest either So which one's is more dangerous.
Speaker 0 They're both dangerous. You gotta take your physical fitness very seriously and really go slow no matter what you're doing when you're learning something because these are our legs, these are our knees and you had to be super careful. Slingshot for everybody Hopefully that was helpful. The weight shift, the brace. Could there really be more weight on the back leg than the front leg?
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