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Jeff Mihelich And questions, and have a great day. Thanks, Jim.
Pamela Thank you, Jim. Hey, Pamela. Hey. How you doing, Chad?
Jeff Mihelich Good. How are you? Hanging in, I think. Yeah. Me too.
Jeff Mihelich Yes. I had to I had to, like, Terry Cunningham sends me me notes, like, where are the summaries of the advisory board? Blah blah blah. I'm, like, I had to forward them the email that I sent them back in November saying, as we discussed, you guys are responsible for getting this information. And all of a sudden, they're handing it off to staff, which is not cool.
Jeff Mihelich So anyway, you're not the only 1. I mean, to be honest with you, I just texted Cindy, not the mayor, Cindy. Right? And I said, hey. What happened?
Jeff Mihelich She's like, oh, yeah. So I since I'm buddy buddy with Kelly Pail, the chair, I just said, any chance you could do this on Wednesday? And she's like, yep. So everybody's gonna get it the week of which is not ideal but you can lead a horse to water,
Pamela you know? That's right. And it's funny because
Jeff Mihelich it was Jen's idea. She's like no I think we should talk about it again. And I think it was just like and
Pamela I was like alright well we tried.
Jeff Mihelich Caught anal because you know how I am. It's like when I lay out a process I know. And I followed up with an email Right. I mean, I couldn't be more clear. No.
Jeff Mihelich And then I was like, Frick. I sent a notetarium. He's like, well, I'm talking to to to John and and blah blah blah about it. I'm just like so John signs me a summary. Wait.
Jeff Mihelich Which John? John Henderson. Oh, Henderson. John sends me a summary and I said is this good enough Terry? And it's like dude you're supposed to be taking the notes.
Jeff Mihelich You are.
Pamela It's not that hard. Anyway, thank you
Jeff Mihelich for listening. That's the reason I'm on is I'm trying to figure out onboarding next. The commission is gonna get some land use items here pretty quick. So Uh-huh. If it's okay, I wanna do you next.
Jeff Mihelich Okay. But here's the part that's interesting. I think you'll appreciate this, and this is why I wanted to talk live. Greg being Greg again wants to give them land use. I know.
Jeff Mihelich Land use 101, but only from, like, the legal signs. But I don't always trust him in this space.
Pamela So here's It should be are you thinking yeah. What does that
Jeff Mihelich so here's what we're gonna do is I want you to be able to take careless or minus 45 minutes. You might be shorter because you're you're pretty tight too. Okay. By the way, it's hilarious. I had to keep asking Melissa leading questions to take up a whole half an hour because she's so clipped, you know?
Jeff Mihelich She did great. Awesome. And Josh. Fine. Fine.
Jeff Mihelich Fine. And guess who's not gonna get to visit with him? John Henderson. Honestly, it's too his stuff's too internal. Right?
Jeff Mihelich So anyway, here just as a quick reminder, you know, I want I do want you to talk a little about who you are, and I will do some of that introduction. Okay. But I don't want you to start, and I'll fill in gaps and brag on you. But then just talk about, you know, how you're structured. Okay.
Jeff Mihelich You know, you know, different divisions, responsibilities, a little bit on funding, but you could do that, like, in 1 minute because you're mostly general fund, but you do get do get some impact fees and blah blah blah. Right. And then, big things that are coming before them, obviously, UDC, you know? Yeah. Maybe a little bit on 387, if I'm getting that number caught, maybe.
Jeff Mihelich And then, maybe opportunities I guess, whatever you think might be there. And then Greg can walk through what's quasi judicial. I mean, if you wanna start and then he adds to it, I'm fine with it, but I think us doing that together.
Pamela Okay. And that's really it. What I might do is, what I might do is introduce after, let me think about the order
Jeff Mihelich because I might want it
Pamela to be before opportunities. But, you know, UDC sort of state legislation 3 82. Yeah. Great. And then I might just but I might want to say generally, something about develop.
Pamela I mean, not really about development, but that you also receive a lot. You will hear a lot of cases from us, applications, blah blah blah. It's like the segue to Greg caught Yep. Perfect.
Jeff Mihelich Yes. If you get in front of him, I'm very cool with that. Okay. Just so it's like Yep. Okay.
Jeff Mihelich Okay. What I what I what I what did they need to hear from you, me, and Greg is you shouldn't be talking to developers. You really shouldn't. Oh, so who's gonna be in the room? Is Terry gonna be in the room?
Jeff Mihelich I'm not She that's so no. It's so annoying. So annoying.
Pamela Yeah. Well, never mind. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, Anna. It's only 2 years.
Pamela So
Jeff Mihelich you wanna hear 1 more Terry story? It's kinda funny. So Friday literally I'm with Douglas and, Joey from 2 o'clock in the afternoon till 6:20. I get email from Terry, like, around 4 something something. Hey.
Jeff Mihelich I got an interview with Nora from the Chronicle about our They're Aware campaign. I really need to talk to somebody. Who can I talk to about that? And I'm like and he's like, it's on Monday. I'm like, well, me?
Jeff Mihelich Well, I don't even I don't wanna bother you on the weekend. And yet, it's like so I since this month, Saturday morning, I get up. I thought, oh, I'm gonna run this long ass email. Fine. I get paid.
Jeff Mihelich I always we all know that, but it's just like, I wish you could through a set. You don't have to take because we have 1 person in the community now, classic small town they'll never get over. That doesn't think we're doing enough even though this campaign's working. And number 2 is we're not in Missoula. We're not a place where they have lots more bears.
Jeff Mihelich Uh-huh. He's caught a blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I'm just like but then he responds back. So are we gonna expand the program? I'm like.
Jeff Mihelich For 3 bears? If we get more bears if we get more bears, and people don't put their garbage away.
Pamela He's a lot. So it'll just be Douglas and Joey.
Jeff Mihelich Yeah. The only people and and, please, I know I have all the faith in the world, but I just I know some of the directors would love to bring other people. Please just be you. Okay. You know?
Jeff Mihelich That's fine. It'll be it'll be me, you, Douglas, Joey, and Greg. Okay. That's fine. And you just you you are I'm just gonna introduce you, talk nicely about you.
Jeff Mihelich I may and you I know you and I work well together in meetings, so it's not a problem. But just know I'll probably be chiming in every now and then at I hope so. Something or whatever. Yeah. I hope so.
Jeff Mihelich But, so I'm gonna have Julie get that going, and then I gotta figure it out from there who's next. But they they've been they've been good. Douglas asked more questions than Joey so far, but you know we'll see. Okay. Alright.
Jeff Mihelich Everything else there? Oh, yeah. Be nervous. You're fine.
Pamela People are falling out of the woodwork. You might get a couple of, like, calls just from I don't even know. Like, random people, But they're all things where people are just getting antsy about things they needed to be antsy about. But there's there's an uptick, like, last in the last couple of weeks, there's been, you know, like the post New Year uptick.
Jeff Mihelich Oh, yeah. So it's all good. Yeah. That's That's fine. Yeah.
Jeff Mihelich Yeah. I the good thing about me being in my job is that I had your job and I'm like, yeah, it is that time of year. I know how to It's like it's applicable. I just wish Terry would just hand them off because he does hand them off but I just wish he wouldn't even talk to them at all but that's just not how he rolls.
Pamela So And just FYI, I'm assuming you know about this, but if not, so there was a developer Patrick Bowell of Roundhouse reached out to me and was asking if I wanna meet with the new mayor, blah blah blah, responded and said, actually
Jeff Mihelich I saw that.
Pamela Okay. So he must have approached Julie to meet with Terry, and Lacey got an info request from Julie via Terry to do all this research. And Lacey tried then came to me, and she's like, I don't know. And I was like, okay. Well, first of all, that's inappropriate.
Pamela That shouldn't be. So just so you know, that is something that went went down. We got Julie whatever we could for Terry, but, just so you know. Okay. Sorry about that.
Pamela Oh, no. It's okay. How long is Terry? That's gonna be your challenge, man. That is an albatross right there, but
Jeff Mihelich Yeah. He's just but then but here's the other good part though is Cindy was the 1 that routinely still wanted to meet with director. I'm just like, no. No. No.
Jeff Mihelich No. No. No. No. Terry, I had to ask him a couple different times.
Jeff Mihelich He's like, nope. I just caught get through 1 more cycle, and then we won't have to worry about it. Yeah. Because the old way will be nobody will remember it. Right.
Jeff Mihelich That's true. Make sense? Yeah. It's just it's just tricky. Yeah.
Jeff Mihelich Wanna hear a big secret? It's kinda funny. Yes. So I get contacted by headhunters all the time, which no big caught. I'm sure you do too.
Jeff Mihelich So this is the 1 that made me go. Ready? City manager of Austin, United States and the 2nd largest city that has the form of government. Well, see you know, you But they're
Pamela a shit show. You mentioned that you thought someone might be, like, sniffing you out for that. Was it, like, months before the conference. Right? Well,
Jeff Mihelich Scott, our headhunter de jure I've worked with for 10 years Yeah. Thought he might get that gig. He didn't get it. Oh. But 1 of this new group called Mosaic, and 1 of the guys who's the partner there, I work with him in 4 caught on on things, and he's like and he was he was like, I'm a big Jeff from Haylock fan, blah blah blah.
Jeff Mihelich I was like, oh, boy. But that's a my ego tells me, oh, go try it, Jeff. But then the other part of me is like are you stupid? Are you stupid? And the timing's horrible because I'm vested caught this coming May, but the following May, and to leave all that money on the table is just stupid.
Jeff Mihelich It's silly. But guess what it pays? Just the base salary. Okay. Tell me.
Jeff Mihelich You you just guess. It's funny.
Pamela Oh my god. I'm gonna pick an insane number. It's 3 20.
Jeff Mihelich Half a $1,000,000. What? Yeah.
Pamela The base salary is Yeah.
Jeff Mihelich Yeah. Like 4.75 or something, and then you just throw in the the car allowance, the housing, all the other stupid things that city managers get. But there's 9 or 10 city commission Bozeman. And there's no way a city like that there's no way a city like that operates as it should. Yes.
Jeff Mihelich Reform. Don't watch me. I know. It's 1 of those things where if this was honestly if this was, like, fast forward a year, I might throw my hat in the ring just because it's, like How could you not? Well, I could get vested here.
Jeff Mihelich Yeah. And then And then all I would have to do, Anna, is, like, just suck it up for 5 years, and on the 5th year, like, the damn vested, I'd retire. I really would. Oh my gosh. But then I just, like, holy crap.
Jeff Mihelich I'd be loaded. That's funny. I know. I'm just flattered, but I also it's like you the way I think we've talked about this, the way that works though is they usually have somebody they want, and then everybody else is just fodder. Fodder.
Jeff Mihelich And you usually can't you usually can't the only 1 I would trust in that is Scott just because I'm, like, I've worked with them
Pamela for a while.
Jeff Mihelich Mhmm. You know, but you'd you once once that's why they have these secret and when they hired the last guy who lasted 2 and a half years, he, they had the interviews at the airport to keep the press away from it. So candidates flew in to Austin, all the commission members went to the airport and then Are you kidding me? No.
Pamela Well, that's not a disaster.
Jeff Mihelich That's big city that's big city. That's how they do it. Really? Yeah.
Pamela Yeah. There's
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