Summary Dr. Greerâs 2023 Year in Review, and the State of Disclosure (Youtube) www.youtube.com
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Pat Hello, doctor Greer. Welcome, and I hope you had a great holiday with your family.
Dr. Greer Hello, Pat, and, thank you, and, hope you did also. And everyone, happy new year and holidays. Hope everyone has a great 2024. It's gonna be Interesting as they say. I think a lot of big changes in the next 12 week 12 months.
Pat It's sort of it would probably be better to say that, you know, buckle up.
Dr. Greer Buckle up. Yes. Indeed. Here we go.
Pat Okay. So, So I think that this year end disclosure update that we're gonna do here really will help to answer the many, many questions that people have about the NDAA, what has happened with it. And I think they'd love to hear your own opinion on, some of the interviews and some of the news that has come out in mainstream media. There's been a lot, and people have tried to sift through this. It's impossible to figure out what's true and what isn't.
Pat There's all kinds of All kinds of stuff being said out there. So
Dr. Greer Yes. And we've heard that we've heard that personally, from, People like Tucker Carlson and members of congress and, other people from all walks of life who've contents that we just don't know what to believe, who to trust, what's there. Because when people begin to look into this, here's the key thing, 90% of the information out there are, like, prepositioned weapons of mass destruction from a psychological and, psychological warfare point of view. And so if you start looking into this with not a whole lot of background information, It's very easy to get diverted into the disinformation or false information as opposed to the information. It's a big problem.
Dr. Greer It's a problem I've been dealing with for over 30 years. December marks the 30th year anniversary of my book briefing the 1st CIA director we did with Clinton. And, 30 years on, I don't think a whole lot has changed in that regard because what we call the fund of knowledge, the basic information So that these leaders in Washington have, and and certainly journalists and the general public, it is an admixture of, myth and Information and deliberately, offered false information for its manipulative value. And that I think is is the biggest problem that we saw in the nineties when I wrote the paper, when disclosure serves secrecy, the secret agenda. So the very people who kept it secret, their agenda is, always the 1 that's gonna be purse pushed forward 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 they have assets embedded everywhere throughout media, government, and elsewhere.
Dr. Greer And and the result is that they end up, putting out information that has a kernel of truth in it that's surrounded by a poison pill of of disinformation. So it's sort of like a sweet coating on the outside that looks through, and then you take the poison. So that that's something that's been developed since The fifties. So as you all know from the CIA document, we acquired, after I briefed the CIA director about this where in 1953, they talked about The great psychological warfare value of the UFO subject. So we're 70 years into those guys having a running start on what's now beginning To be just the the disclosure concept that I that I founded in the nineties is now used in all the mainstream media.
Dr. Greer It's called disclosure. You know, someone joked or sort of trademarked that. No. I'm just I'm just kidding. But that unfortunately, we know that Whether you're the president and you have someone come in with a portfolio of false information or you're a journalist, you're going to first have the people shoved in your face who are, Counterintelligence, disinformation operatives, even though they may not come across that way initially.
Dr. Greer So It's complicated problem, and it it's why there is so much confusion and consternation and and what have you.
Pat Right. So, can you discuss this NDAA? And can you tell me or tell our listeners what policies, have changed towards this UAP research and transparency. Are they more transparent? And how does is this going to impact people's future.
Pat What can we expect this year?
Dr. Greer Well, to be honest with you, it a a great deal of the most important aspects of it was gutted by the conference committee between the senate and the house. What the senate passed was pretty aggressive. And the senate intelligence committee and the folks I've been working with there, it came out of committee unanimously to put this amnesty or safe harbor period in so that individual corporations would have 6 months to come clean, Then they'd be in violation of the law explicitly, etcetera. A lot of that was taken out. Now there were other parts of it that were problematic that I think resulted in other parts of it being taken out.
Dr. Greer And we're gonna get into something here very controversial, what I'm about to say. But there were some provisions in there modeled on the, JFK Assassination Records Act, which was valued as a great Step forward in reality, the JFK Records Act resulted in the, continued cover up of the most sensitive information surrounding that event, and everyone knows that. And so the other problem with this is that There was going to be a 9 member panel appointed by the president and then confirmed by the senate. And, unfortunately, Neither the people in Congress nor the White House, and I would say most of the UFO research community, don't know the history of these panels. The Robertson Panel, 1953, was set up, as an objective research project To look into the UFO issue, and it turned out we have documents that state this, that, doctor Donald Menzel of Harvard and other people on that panel, in a CIA document, we have we're on the payroll and we're embedded to sort of skew the results and steer that panel into a dead end.
Dr. Greer The same thing happened a few years later, 1969. The Condon Committee was professor Condon at University of Colorado. They were set up to get to the bottom of this. We have CIA documents. It's all gonna be in the archive that all of you can read.
Dr. Greer These are official documents not contested. Their provenance is not in doubt, and it states the key members of that panel, including, Professor Condon himself were on the payroll of the CIA and were actually, operatives, but that that had to be kept very secret. We have that document. And it turns out, as you know from the Disclosure Project, initially, the group of witnesses that came forward in in 19, 2000 and 1, doctor Robert Woods, who is a McDonnell Douglas, aircraft who which, of course, that merged with Boeing, mister McDonald himself of McDonald Douglas wanted him to look into the UFO issue. He did.
Dr. Greer He found all this hard evidence, and he was gonna be on that committee with professor Condon, The the Condon Committee, and professor Condon went to mister McDonald and told him to fire him, And he was kicked off that committee because he had actual evidence as opposed to the myth and the cover up. So there's a problem with this, and this is could there be 9 people that would be appointed by these bureaucrats and and people in the government who would not be corrupted clandestinely. It's not like they're wearing a badge. Now here's the naivete of the public. No 1 wears a badge saying I'm a covert CIA operative.
Dr. Greer Right? So these people, you know, whether they're bribed or there's oppo research on them or they did illegal that they can hold over them or some personal problem, or money. I mean, all, you know, All the above has been been done to me and offered to me. And so what I see is that that would have been very difficult 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 it would have also been a under top secret clearance, and then they could decide whatever they found, which parts the public would know and which parts they wouldn't. What that means is that there would be just problem that probably proffered to the public and the media.
Dr. Greer Now some people have said that I'm working with in the senate that that's a rather cynical view, but I think it's because it's not cynical. It's realistic if you know the history. So if you don't know the history, you're gonna repeat it. And, unfortunately, the members of congress who conceived of that, I don't think know this 70 year history of how this has been covered up, what the mechanisms are, and how those efforts have been corrupted. Therefore, The real action needs to be, and with what we've been saying for 30 years, is an open, not classified hearings in the senate and house and a true investigation.
Dr. Greer Now I will tell you having worked for years now very intimately with the most senior people in the house and the senate, particularly the last 2 years. There's no real investigation going on because they haven't staffed that up yet. And When I first met with the senior, officials on the senate intelligence committee a couple years ago, the plan was they were gonna put on a A group with about 30 investigators to get to the bottom of this, and and that funding and that process never began. They opened the ARO office, AARO, at the Pentagon. But that office also, was doing conducting all of its debriefings of the, whistleblowers we brought in in a SCIF, 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 compartmented information facility, top secret, where a lot of that was covered up and not sent back over to the members of the congress.
Dr. Greer I know for a fact. How do I know that? Listen carefully, everyone. We would bring people over to Washington. They would first meet with my trusted folks who are really the white hat good guys, senate intel, senate, armed services, etcetera.
Dr. Greer So they would get all that information from these Whistleblowers first, then they would drive them over to the skiff or arrow near the Pentagon. And so they knew when when that ARROW office and and doctor Kropatrik was covering up the testimony and information Given by some of the most important firsthand witnesses, which unfortunately, at this point, I can't name who all those were. But I'll just give everyone an example. None of you know who this guy is. It's a firsthand whistleblower, not like mister Grush, someone who's secondhand.
Dr. Greer And he was at Area 51 for years. He was actually in in, kinda control of communication monitoring of of the Of all telephone con conversations and everything in the very top secret s 4 and other areas, He worked this issue for a number of years and also was at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. And what he shared, Doctor Kirkpatrick didn't wanna hear, and then left it out of of what he would then send up to even the top secret Gang of 8 folks in the congress. So that's why you saw last spring a rather strong letter from senators 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗹𝘆 and the the the senator Warner of Virginia that said point blank, it was sort of castigating the Arrow office for having done that. Now the reason they knew that had been done, We had made sure that they had that information independently.
Dr. Greer So it's a check and a balance. So that's What we've been doing, and I know it's shocking to some people to hear this, but you have to. You cannot trust folks who are in these positions not to be corrupted or corruptible. Now, ultimately, the way to get around that is to do this and take it completely out of. And this is where I completely agree with, you know, congressman Moskowitz.
Dr. Greer He's a democrat from Miami, and and Burchett, the republican of Tennessee, Luna. It's across the spectrum in the house oversight where they realize they need to have an open hearing and they need to have subpoena power. And that is what we're now working with them on. And we just proffered and sent over to them a couple weeks ago 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 Christmas, 23 of the first, really important top secret firsthand whistle blowers to be subpoenaed. And if they're subpoenaed, they're testifying under oath.
Dr. Greer If they lie, they can be prosecuted, and it gives them cover, more importantly. Most of them Wanna be sure it's they're they're given cover and protection for a Cummings forward. 2 weeks ago, we had a brand new lieutenant colonel air force retired who was at a very important air force base and dealt directly with the pilots And the aircraft that are the man made UFOs that, of course, right now, you have an army of ufologists going up there Telling people that didn't exist. Right? That's the biggest part of the cover up.
Dr. Greer Heads up, everyone. It's not about the extraterrestrials, aliens. It's about what we have. Because those technologies, disclosed would terminate the oil industry and the the central utilities and all of that. Know, it's it's it's 100 of 1,000,000,000,000 of dollars.
Dr. Greer So I think that 1 of the problems is is being sure that the people who firsthand gets subpoenaed, and it's the correct people. But then there's another level, and that is what we've been spending a lot of time on behind the scenes is and I'm not gonna say who I'm doing this with, but, like, when there have been some of the earlier hearings, they'll contact me and ask me what questions to ask. The big problem, because I've been doing this now for 30 some years and have debriefed over a1000 literally over a1000 whistleblowers. You have to know enough to ask the follow on to the follow on to the follow on question. It was complicated.
Dr. Greer In other words, you need to have a certain level of knowledge to even know what the next question would be, to be frank. I don't wanna get into the weeds too far with this, but that's why there is a huge Educational learning curve for members of congress or or White House who are incredibly busy with a 1000000 things, the Middle East blowing up, China, Russia, Ukraine, blah blah blah, the economy. And and so to get them, you know, up to Up to date and up to speed correctly with information and not false information, very difficult to do and and very time consuming. That's what we're that's behind I'm giving people a glimpse behind the scenes of what we're trying to do and and have been doing rather successfully, But it's a slow going, of course. Now the other thing that's happening that happened in 2024 towards the very end of the year, There 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸, no I'm sorry?
Pat You mean you mean 2023?
Dr. Greer 23. Yes. I'm getting my ahead of myself a year.
Pat That's okay. You're almost there. Yeah.
Dr. Greer Hey, man. I'm I'm a man in a hurry. Right? You know, I ain't getting no younger, girl. So The 1 I know it, so, you know, I I was thinking the other day.
Dr. Greer I was 34 when I started this disclosure effort, and now I'm 68. Half my life's been.
Pat But
Dr. Greer at any rate, what I what I think is very important for people to appreciate is The volume of information that's out there that we have versus the volume of disinformation that's the mythology. And the dominant paradigm is the mythology. Right?
Pat Right.
Dr. Greer And and and so when they have These people go up there, they have a little bit of knowledge. Alright? Let's say you're a secondhand witness or you're an operative, Like Luis Elizondo, you're gonna provide the information that this cover up artist wants them to provide, And or you just simply don't know, and you find it unbelievable. And this is why some of the pilots, Blake, David Fravor, who whom I've spoken with, very sincerely believe that those objects he chased Had to be from another dimension, another world, another planet, whatever, and that we couldn't possibly have something like that. And yet, We have knowledge and proofs that those 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸, in fact, from the Lockheed Skunk Works.
Dr. Greer Now another update, in late September. I was taken by a classified helicopter and a very high ranking Person inside the secret, deep black government programs to 2 black sites out west, at very low altitude. And I have that video. I think you've seen some of it.
Pat Right.
Dr. Greer Including the opening to the underground facility at 1 of them that was run by the Lockheed Skunk Works Corporation and Boeing, which work seamlessly, and another 1 that was north of Grumman. And, it's a it's a site that I know the most senior people in the congress that we've handed this over to Subsequent to this, and we have, had no idea existed. They didn't know the sites existed. They didn't know what was underground there. It's like an anthill Where you go under, and then there's this huge complex underneath, in the deserts, out west.
Dr. Greer And This particular site had, electromagnetic pulse weapons, that, of course, an electromagnetic pulse is what you get from a A nuclear blast, but just that pulse factor can be weaponized. Now that's against the nuclear nonproliferation treaty, But we have them, and, of course, the organization doing this could care less about law, treaties, international law, etcetera. Who cares? If you're gonna be rogue and break the law, you're you're gonna break all of them. Right?
Pat Right.
Dr. Greer So what has happened when I was over this site, I realized and he the this gentleman is is a senior operator there, Very senior, who actually has handled the biologicals, meaning the dead bodies of the ETs, but also of the human pilots we've killed that have accidentally strayed into that airspace during an operation that have been struck with these, electromagnetic pulse weapons at both sides. The 1 side I was over, he said about 2 ET craft a year are knocked down there that that he's been involved with Retrieving and and it upsets up operational security around it. He's extremely senior. And so the it was kind of spooky because there was a security vehicle right by 1 of those as we descended right over the site, Maybe a 100, 200 feet, AGL, but ground level. But, and the director of the law enforcement, strike team that we've been providing information to is behind me and and the back of the taxi, the chopper.
Dr. Greer But the purpose of this was for us to review this site 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 besides the fact that they're targeting and knocking down the ET craft, And by accident, unfortunately, of civilian aircraft. And they just completely get rid of the fuselage and the bodies of these people who have been killed over this site. And and that's something we're looking at opening up a major investigation, and lawsuit over, 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 it's a lot of people over the years that have been killed. This 1 site's been fully operational for 40 years and 4040. 40.
Dr. Greer And yeah. 40. And have, on average, killed about 2 ET craft and and retrieve those victims during that period. So that's 80 crash retrievals just at 1 site. The other site, similar number.
Dr. Greer So when I tell people we have a 122 crash retrieval cases, those are the ones that we have had people come forward and talk about. There's obviously probably more than a1000 over the years, and I would say, globally, much more than that. The other problem is that we found out that that same site, this operation, they have people who've been trained We're using very advanced technologies. And what I described in 1991 is consciousness assisted technology, interface between thought consciousness and technology to essentially hijack an ET vehicle, bring it into the area, and kill it. And this particular gentleman is handing over to us a couple of these operators that do that.
Dr. Greer Most of the people doing that are killed in the process of their training, but there are some alive, and a couple of them are coming forward. Now that sounds like science fiction, but it's true. And this is part of the problem is that the deeper you go into the subject, the rabbit hole just gets crazier. And And the truth is way more unbelievable than the fiction being sold. Now, of course, all these senior folks who've approached us know about How they've been conducting abductions, making them look alien, what those technologies entail, how they've been doing, and why they've been doing Mutilations, we have a new whistleblower who's involved in that directly.
Dr. Greer It's very dark stuff as Tucker Carlson recently said in an interview with someone. But he doesn't know that a lot of the the the stage crafting of the scariest stuff are covert human programs Conducting them for their psychological warfare value, quote, unquote, quote, CI document. But that's something we hope to clear up with with mister Carlson soon and some other journalists, who have been gaslit by some false information.
Pat Yeah. I mean, his comments, I don't know if you wanna speak to any of his, comments that are particular comments. You might want to because they are out there in the public domain, and I think this has caused a great deal of of, Confusion with the public and people who follow this, not just the public, but people in government and law enforcement. Serious.
Dr. Greer It is. It it totally is. And and and the but that's the intention.
Pat Right.
Dr. Greer It it's not to bring clarity. It's to bring confusion to to hide and obfuscate with false information and false narratives. But the stagecraft, the staging of these false events is so well done. You have very advanced aircraft that are anti gravity, that are human. You have very advanced technologies of things that look like an alien that aren't.
Dr. Greer And then on top of it, there's been this deliberate conflation and confusion around Extraterrestrial and extra dimensional.
Pat Right. And, you know, it it doesn't seem that he it doesn't appear that he may be doing this on I just think he doesn't know at all. So
Dr. Greer No. He doesn't. No. Totally innocent. Total total totally innocent.
Pat Right. Right. And Yeah. And he said he thinks that ETs have been here for forever and that the US government has made contact with them for some time and that he finds this disturbing. Does he have proof of any of this?
Pat And if he does, what what should he do with it?
Dr. Greer Well, no, he he's heard these accounts secondhand, and that part of it's true. There have been an ETs that are around the planet for probably longer than homo sapiens, humans. There have been events that happened early on with contact, and then, of course, we ended up betraying those ETs, back in the fifties. I always tell people, can you name a single treaty the US government has done with anyone where they haven't betrayed it? I'd like to hear about it.
Dr. Greer You know, being, you know, my grandmother is half Cherokee, Native American. Ask them how that worked out with the Trail of Tears where they were mostly The genocide of the Cherokee Nation. So I think 1 of the 1 of the problems with this also is If if you're a little bit of knowledge is a very extremely dangerous thing. I mean, I've said this now for most of 2023 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 It it was quite clear that there were people coming forward that had secondhand information and are just 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸 looking into the issue quite recently in In the last few months, maybe last couple years, like mister Brush, and it's very easy to lose your way through that Wilderness that's been created deliberately. I think the other bigger problem is, Many of the events are not even the staged fake alien events.
Dr. Greer They're things from another dimension. And I was recently on a Twitter Spaces interview. I guess there were 50, 60 people listening. Right. And I went I went on and up deliberately 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 there was a group that deals with all the Italian, you know, myth.
Dr. Greer And, of course, no 1 on that understood the difference between An extra dimensional, interdimensional being that is brought from another dimension, alright, which exists. And an extraterrestrial biological entity from another planet and star system. The problem the reason it gets so confusing is I encourage people to look on our YouTube channel here. We have a whole afternoon event talking about This the cosmic structure and architecture and all these different phenomenon phenomena, And they get called phenomenon. Alright?
Dr. Greer So there are multiple phenomena, plural, being called 1 thing, UAP, whatever. And that's bad, because what happens is that you have quite spooky, scary things that can be induced, let's say, brought forward from another dimension that aren't extraterrestrial, but sure would look like 1 and sure would confuse people. So So now you have 3 things going on. You have the actual Ebens, extraterrestrial biological entities with actual spacecraft. But they travel When their their technology allows them to go beyond the speed of light.
Dr. Greer But when they're even hovering somewhere over earth, they can be Shifted out of this dimension into another, and then pop back and forth. That's how they look like they materialize and dematerialize. So that technology is easily confused with and let's call it a NATO extra dimensional or being from another dimension. That's not an ET from another planet. Because there's some overlap in the phenomenological, way that they would appear, what you would see and experience.
Dr. Greer So then you have, of course, the man 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲. Completely man made, fake Aliens, fake UFOs, or man made UFOs. And all of that gets thrown into sort of a blender and gets mixed around in people's heads as they first begin to look into this. So this cacophony and confusion is completely understandable. It just has it it it requires corrective knowledge and information, which is what we're trying to do.
Dr. Greer But it's difficult because the weight of the zeitgeist out there, let's call it, Is all into the spooky stuff that then commingles it with the, actual extraterrestrial. And if you don't know to make the I always have used this analogy. Let's say I'm a doctor. So let's say someone comes in with chest pain. If you think everyone appearing with chest pain in my emergency department is having a heart attack, you're gonna miss a 100 other diagnosis, Pulmonary embolus, dissecting thoracic aneurysm, pleurisy, pneumonia, blah blah blah blah blah.
Dr. Greer Like, a whole list that could go on all day. Now that's unfortunately what's going on with this subject, and that's called a differential diagnosis. In other words, you you have to have enough knowledge of what the signs and symptoms and and findings would be for any given, the the reality of what it is. In this case, that's not happened yet. It's all clumped together, and there's no discernment.
Dr. Greer There's no parsing it out. And that makes it very easy then to gaslight and confuse people with scary narratives where you can confuse the ET issue and the, let's Call it the native extraterrestrial craft and people with the manmade ones that are staged with the extra dimensional or interdimensional Phenomenon, which is also very real, by the way. Absolutely real.
Pat And he's talking to him.
Dr. Greer That's that's that's the biggest crux of the confusion that people like mister Carlson or these senators and congressmen run into. And then they throw their hands up and go, We don't know what to believe. We don't know who to believe. And and it becomes very difficult, at that point 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 You have to spend a great deal of time to go through the data and learn basically a new paradigm Of understanding the cosmos, dealing with dimensions of the 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸, and the big paradigm buster is What illegal secret government programs have? And this is greatly underestimated by the UFO subculture of the media and congress.
Dr. Greer Whatever you think we humans have, it's a 100 times more unbelievable. And so that that creates its own own problem because it means that the ability to false flag, hope, stage things That to any reasonable person, I'm saying reasonable person, would believe as alien or extraterrestrial, is quite well developed. And that's unfortunately 1 of the the big challenges of the disclosure effort.
Pat Yeah. Well, they have, I think, you know, we've talked about this 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲. This idea of dimensionality with different meanings and different, you know Right. Whatever they are, The government I mean, this illegal black ops has has also has that capability of digital travel The people would say, oh, no. No.
Pat No. That can't be real. That sounds like myth or science fiction. But as you we all know, this is is,
Dr. Greer Well, I I I've dealt with at least 3, maybe 4 separate covert technology teams that have had very high voltage, toroidal, donut shaped systems that at certain frequencies will bring into this dimension 3 d Some really scary thing like a demon or something terrifying from another dimension. Right. Extradimensional. It's not extraterrestrial. And so this gets into a a very, you know, big problem where we have a big catching up to do in our basic understanding Of the architecture of the cosmos, what I call the new cosmology.
Dr. Greer And that's why in, I believe, 1990 or 91, I wrote a paper Called, e ETs and the new cosmology. The how do you understand the ET, phenomenon When there are these other things going on, and how do you discern and just make a distinction? Now 30 some years later, of course, most people haven't read that, but it it's it's and it's controversial. Any new information is always controversial, which I accept. That's fine.
Dr. Greer I don't have any problem with it. But we're we're really going to have to focus on that more and more than than people would like to 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 this simplistic, naive, Everything that goes bump in the night is an alien business, is is you know, that's gotta stop pretty quickly. Now the best way for that to happen, Again, 2 things. Open hearings where people have knowledge of this are put under oath and subpoena, and they talk about it. Alright.
Dr. Greer And number 2, law enforcement going in and seizing those assets that are being used criminally and standing them down. And I've said this 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲. There needs to be everyone's been focused on the NDAA in this bill and that bill. That's great. And and I've been there helping with that and been been suggesting.
Dr. Greer I actually was the 1st person to suggest to the Senate Intelligence Committee people to put this amnesty provision in. In fact, a couple years ago, and initially, they didn't want to. They and if they did, they thought, well, we'll do 18 months, and they did 6 months. But they didn't but it didn't come out of committee with Between the house and the senate conference committee, but maybe it will next year. The point I'm making is all of that process Has to go along with people understand what it is that you're you're trying to investigate.
Dr. Greer Which phenomenon are you investigating? And so that's where it gets more and more and more complicated, for the members. And, The only way to clarify would be to bring forward people who, number 1, have dealt with both or 1 or the other. Maybe 1 person dealt with the ET, Another person dealt with the man made. Another person dealt with the stagecraft of of staging the mutilations and abductions, who are who come forward, who are whistleblowers.
Dr. Greer But then the other part, it would be for law enforcement to actually go in and seize these assets, because they're just simply enforcing existing law. You don't have to pass a new law. They're on the books. I mean, there are any number of laws against Abducting people, torturing people, mutilating people's private livestock, kidnapping, embezzlement of government funds, black illegal black budget operations, on and on and on. So, you know, there's dozens of felonies that are already on the books of the federal and state local governments for that matter that are being violated.
Dr. Greer So in that sense, You really what you really need is a a a 3 pronged approach, and this is what we're doing. 1, open Hearings under subpoena in congress, not in a skip. Now I'm gonna come back to this in a minute. Remind me too about how that's been messed up, Alright? In the last 6 months.
Dr. Greer The 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 would be law enforcement, where they go in and There's a knock on the door, and it's polite, then it's not polite to come in. It is like a SWAT team. That needs to happen 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲, otherwise, you're not gonna be able to get these assets, under control, but also to show them to the congress and the White House and the public, Which is the intention of of the law enforcement team that we've been, having briefings with and giving them the information they need, from our archive, from the intelligence collection we have of a 147 black sites that we've collected. And now the other part of it is then the the 3rd prong, and there's, like, I won't say who it is 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 we're these are still in negotiations. This is a major, major law firm That sued 1 of the giant corporations and won about $2,000,000,000, Dragon Slayers.
Dr. Greer And they've approached well, 1 of the partners saw me in the airport at LAX, basically, and approached and and said, you know, We had a conversation, and I talked about our legal Disclosure project effort, and, this person offered the firm's Resources to do this. So that's something in 2024 to look 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸. We'll see how far that goes, because we have a number of cases that can be opened, and put through federal court. That would provide another way you could go to discovery if there was a cooperating federal judge, if he's not corrupt, Would then allow for, side investigations, depositions, Disclosure, and, it would rock These large corporate entities on their heels, because now we're talking much bigger than a $2,000,000,000 lawsuit. There's a lot of zeros after that for what they've done, and what they've taken from the world and the people, these free energy devices, all of it.
Dr. Greer We have, the the the former chairman of a major Fortune 100 company that's come forward and and is admitted. He has the documents and the proof this company had, quote, free energy that would save the planet and eliminate poverty, But he has to be subpoenaed. So he could be subpoenaed in Congress, but you could also do it through a private civilian suits series of suits. So that's the That's the 3rd approach.
Pat Right? They want to be subpoenaed 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 doesn't that, kind of jump over their, NDAs in some way?
Dr. Greer Well, let's talk about that. Yeah. Yeah. Their their nondisclosure agreements, whether it's corporate or government, have already been nullified. And luckily, there's a man I've been working with for, about a year who did not wanna come forward unless he Spoke in a SCIF, top secret, secure compartment information facility, which is where you exchange top secret Codename level information, and and I've been in those.
Dr. Greer Now what what's interesting is that he's now come around and understood it took about, 9 months for him to get his to to really see the proof That his nondisclosure agreement is nullified because the operation he was working under on this particular issue Was a criminal enterprise, not overseen and approved by the congress or the president. So now that he knows that, he's willing to come forward and, b, and give testimony. So for many of these men and women, it's a process. Oh, and, you know, you remember the hearings this past summer When, mister Gross said, oh, I need to add I can talk about that as he's being a skiff. Not true.
Dr. Greer Right. That that and I'm what I'm telling now the members of the Oversight Committee is that I'm glad you were denied a SCIF 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 you should not be conducting this business in a SCIF. There should be an open hearing on C SPAN and on the news networks. There are we should afford that organization No cover of national security. None.
Dr. Greer Unless they come clean and and rejoin the legal Processes that our constitution requires. So remember, in the 19 nineties, between 1992 And 1998, I had met with enough senior people at the Pentagon, generals, admirals, People in congress, senators, congressmen, White House people, CI directors, etcetera. And it was made quite clear to me that these projects were being run without oversight and supervision and, therefore, unconstitutional, and up to and including threatening Senior officials, if they made inquiries, literally threatening them. So you can't behave like a mafia, The legal organization and then hide behind the law to enforce the secrecy. This what I just said here, Everyone needs to transcribe it and write it to their members of congress.
Dr. Greer They cannot and should not afford That effort, the dignity, and the stat stature of a top secret clearance or any clearance. So this is why it needs to be brought straight out the information. Now caveat, the operational technology and design, so the things that fly that we have. Those should be very secret, and people are gonna hate when they hear me say this. The energy devices that would run your house and car, great.
Dr. Greer The things that fly at couple 100000 miles per hour, you do not want an unstable country or a terrorist organization get that because in 2 seconds, they could deliver a weapon over downtown LA or DC or New York or whatever. So there are legitimate concerns, But let's face it. We all know we have thermonuclear weapons. You can't go to Ace Hardware and buy 1, or build 1. Right?
Dr. Greer So some of this needs to be looked at in a more nuanced, and I would say, mature way. Right now, see, that hasn't happened yet. The the distinction between the information and the existence of these technologies and craft coming out versus the actual technologies. The actual technologies need to be brought out in phases. And the 1st phase, which is what we've been recommending for 30 years, are the devices that are 0 point, but quantum vacuum, whatever you wanna call them, like we presented in the Lost Century film, That would put in a a system for the world that would eliminate pollution and end stop the damage to the environment, but also eliminate poverty in about 20 years.
Dr. Greer So those can come out a 100 years ago. Those should have been out in the time of Nikola Tesla. I mean, the real Tesla technologies, not the current fake ones. But so that is something very, very important, to make that distinction. And I I say this because I have to have sort of very recent conversations with members of congress that I'm meeting with, but also people in special forces, law enforcement.
Dr. Greer I mean, this is serious. This is not, you know, UFO Google it on the Internet. I mean, it's very serious responsibility. And I and I'm very blunt about the fact that not everything technological can spill out in the 1st period. But the knowledge of their existence needs to.
Dr. Greer And we certainly can't keep covering up the existence of the ET Craft and people and targeting them and destroying them, but we also can't keep the, covert programs Using illegally, clandestinely, the man made UFOs, which have been used in horrific, I mean, murdering entire villages In Africa and and and South America, and the CIA document that Jacques Filet has where he outlines, You know, in in 1985, the CIA document that said they were down, and Brazil and Argentina abducting, Peasants, quote, unquote, further psychological warfare value making it look completely alien with man made Alien looking craft and creatures. Now that that is an official document that we know exists. Josef Fillet and a couple other people I know Habit, but they haven't turned it over publicly yet. But that can be subpoenaed. See?
Dr. Greer So in a court case or in the congress, Knock, knock. Here's a subpoena. You deliver produce this document. So we have outlined all this. It's very complex.
Dr. Greer I I understand that in the New Year, 2024, there will be more hearings. And I'm trying to get them ready With the correct witnesses teed up, but also the correct questions and follow on questions, and then most importantly, the The right approach. The wrong approach where we say, we can hear about this openly, but this, we have to go into a skiff. No. No.
Dr. Greer No. No. Close the SCIF. That time's gotta be over.
Pat So the only thing that when you're talking about transparency and Bringing this knowledge out in in, in open public hearings rather than a sniff. Your field is really the only thing that would be that would be appropriate to do in a SCIF would be something that has to do with electrogravitics.
Dr. Greer Yep. The the the sort of, Very advanced technologies, how they're made, what their design is that could be used as a weapon. Right?
Pat Right.
Dr. Greer That's different than the information. A thermonuclear device is a weapon. Right? But but, You know, not everyone can possess 1 and, you know, you you know, Rhode Island can't build its own nuclear weapon, so it can fight off Boston for something stupid. Right?
Dr. Greer So, I mean, so the the truth of the matter is, you know, you know, I'm I'm being silly, but, I mean, you have to have some sort of reasonable criteria. But if you don't even know what what's what in other words, you're dealing right now, this is where The people who are in the senior reaches of the aerospace and intelligence community that are currently in those positions who've reached out, they're very frustrated with the slow pace of this in congress. So it's it's it's to be determined, TBD, whether The the the the legal approach we're gonna take, in a court case would bring this information out before congress would or before Law enforcement organizes and says, we've sat around all we're going to. We have enough actionable intelligence to move on these facilities, and we're gonna move. So those 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸 3 big initiatives that we're heading up and assisting with.
Dr. Greer I'm not, of course I I'm not law enforcement. But when I was approached by the director of the law enforcement initiative In April, if I would help them, because they had no knowledge of where assets were. I said, What do you want? He said, we want everything. I said, my friend, that's gonna be a lot.
Dr. Greer And they they're they're getting everything. And then this lets me pivot to something even more current. You all heard that we have the Disclosure Project Intelligence Archive. I think you can testify to the fact when you were here for a couple of weeks helping scan stuff in, there's some
Pat Oh, yes.
Dr. Greer Mind blowing stuff in there. Yep. Yep. Some some
Pat I literally had to go outside and take a couple deep breaths a couple of times. I mean, this is going to be where people do need to 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸. It's but it needs to come out.
Dr. Greer Yeah. So I'm I'm just giving this as a a warning to people listening. This is gonna come out early next year. We are spending 4, $500,000 to move all Electronic files into digital and all documents and testimony into digital that are now in a custom designed searchable database with major categories. We've been able to compress the videos and the audio files through a technology.
Dr. Greer So instead of it being 50 terabytes, We can keep it under a terabyte. And by doing so, we'll be able to put it and host it so that we wouldn't have to be spending enormous amounts of money so the public could access it. Because as you know, this is a big problem. You know, it's the cost of that. We don't have, You know, the the Rockefeller and Ford Foundations and the government are not supporting this.
Dr. Greer This is all our own effort. But, it will then have an interface. So if you look at a database that would have all that content you saw or some of it you saw, There would be an interface between that database that's being custom built to the worldwide web. And what we need, if there's anyone who can do this in 30 days, is a web site developer. It'd be more like a landing page that we could have that up, and that would connect to this system.
Dr. Greer I'm not an Internet technology guy, but that would then give free access to the entire archive to 8,000,000,000 people on the planet. And I will say this. This is a rather bold statement. That dump of data and information is the disclosure. It is everything.
Dr. Greer It it's every site. It's hundreds of top secret witnesses. It's hundreds of thousands of pages of government documents and transcripts of testimony And technology and black budget proof, and it's, you know, a 122 crash retrievals and named people and sites and on and on and on and on and on. So it's not finished. It we wanted it finished by now, but it's Big project and technically challenging in some ways.
Dr. Greer I won't get into the sausage making of that nightmare, but It's a big undertaking. So but it will be available. Now the only thing that the public won't see, those of you who who are curious, are the redacted names of people, their their Social Security numbers, and and their email addresses. If they're a top secret witness or an individual that doesn't wanna be known by the public, but it's wanted us to have the information. So this is a little bit like the Chatham House Rules at at secret meetings.
Dr. Greer You know, Chatham House is a think tank in London or in the UK where you can cite the information someone shares, but not the name of the person. So my ethics is that if someone has said, I want you to have this information, I don't mind if the world has it, but I don't want my name out there Because I'm scared for my family or I don't want a bunch of UFO coops banging my door down or whatever it is. So I honor those requests. So that is the redacted. Now the full unredacted, which is very sensitive and Very top secret.
Dr. Greer That is being provided to the the key investigators, the law enforcement, and the senior people in Congress. All of it. No. Nothing's held back. So that's look forward to that, and we hope I had hoped we would have the whole thing out, December 1st, it looks like it may be more later in the winter.
Dr. Greer The big hang up is gonna be who can build this landing page website for us quickly, like in the next 30 days. And the team that's been working on the database are not web developers, but they can get someone. So there's a bit of a kerfuffle with that. That's that's the it's like we're at the 99 yard line. We need 1 more yard to to carry it across.
Dr. Greer Otherwise, the public will have no portal. Right? You need to have a portal into this thing.
Pat Right.
Dr. Greer Anyway, so and and I don't know the first thing about making a website, And and we don't have anyone on our team who does. Nobody knows how to build a website. So if someone's expert at that and can do it quickly and either for free or reasonably, let us know, like, 3 months ago.
Pat You know, there are people out there who know how to do this. And once to hear this. I think you have a lot of hands coming up. So, hopefully
Dr. Greer We'll see.
Pat Yeah. We'll see.
Dr. Greer We'll see.
Pat Right. Okay. So 1 other thing I wanna ask you about with Deborah Carlson. He he believes that there is a spiritual he's mentioned that he believes that there and he he's not the only 1, Obviously, there are many people who speak about this this topic and this subject that understand that there Some understand, some don't. That there is a spiritual component, that is involved with with these beings and with contact experiences.
Pat And going forward, can you speak I don't know anyone else in the world who can speak about this with the expertise and knowledge that you have. So can you speak about that a little bit for us?
Dr. Greer Sure. I mean, it's and, again, it's it's sort of recapitulates what we started with. There's I I told this funny story back in the nineties being at the Vatican with Monsignor Balducci, who is a, a theologian, senior theologian to pope John Paul. And he was actually a demonologist, interestingly. And, of course, not my cup of tea, all that, but, I mean, you know, we had a very long interview.
Dr. Greer And he said, the extraterrestrials are neither demons nor angels. However, They're not hostile, and they're so advanced that they could be confused with angels. On the other hand, the extra dimensional, phenomenon would be more like the demons, and those get conflated all the time with extraterrestrial. And the man made atrocities being done, the 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸 alien definitely looked like a negative entity from somewhere. So you have all of that happening.
Dr. Greer Now he emphatically said because then he had access at the Vatican, All the way to the pope, and, you know, he introduced me to the Vatican, astronomer and everything. And and so he understood the cosmology quite well and knew the difference between an angel, a demon, an ET, and something that would be concocted out of the Skunk 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸 or or what have you, covert program. But that is a very advanced understanding. But so spiritually, The the ET, the actual, let's call it native ET, real extraterrestrial, All of them are so advanced that they would appear to be, you know, unimaginable in their evolution. And there is a deep spiritual component to it simply because once a civilization has free energy and abundance, and it's no longer fighting over a scrap of land here and a piece of gold there.
Dr. Greer The whole civilization pivots towards the development of their spiritual higher states of consciousness. And so they're very interested in humans and in that component. And that's why the Close Encounters of the 5th Kind, the 𝗖𝗘𝟱 Contact if you get the app, CE 5 Contact, 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗹𝘆 see it's very rooted in this understanding of consciousness, universality, and How that operates through not only making contact, but also advanced technologies. Extraterrestrial technology seamlessly interface with consciousness field and thought. And so that part of it, When people encounter it without an understanding of nonlocality, of the physics of entanglement, of the physics of the entanglement of consciousness and thought and omnipresence of consciousness, all those concepts, It's going to be very confusing 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 and and you're going to then also conflate some of the extraterrestrial phenomenon and and and experiences people have with something from an angelic realm, because some of them You have entire planets out there that on the level of consciousness, they're basically evolved to the level of a very higher level of consciousness, And so they would present as these very enlightened spiritual beings, even if they have a body in a spacecraft from a Star system in the Andromeda galaxy.
Dr. Greer So this gets where you have to have this comprehensive assessment, an overview that integrates what's normally very separate things that never get Put together, and that's science, spirituality, religion, consciousness studies, and advanced physics, The cutting edge of of entanglement and AI and all of this. So that's something that requires A deep study and understanding of this in order not to be completely discombobulated and confused. And so he's quite right that there is a spiritual component. But again, which is it? Is it actually a spiritual being?
Dr. Greer Man made phenomenon, an extraterrestrial advanced civilization whose consciousness might be on parity With a celestial level of of consciousness. All of that has to be understood, and then that goes into your Analysis whenever you encounter a phenomenon, a case, an encounter. What is it? Is it x, y, or z, or something else. So, again, without that sort of knowledge and study, everyone's gonna be hopelessly confused, unfortunately.
Dr. Greer And this is not that difficult. I think we can articulate that as briefly as I just did. I agree. But it's it needs to be discussed, but it makes people uncomfortable because if you're a scientist, you're not comfortable with that. If you're a theologian, you're not conversant with science.
Dr. Greer If you're A policy academic or, you know, political person, the all of that is just completely foreign mostly to the to to those folks. So we kinda have to create a common ground for all that. And so and that's what we've tried to do 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 as you know, we have these 3 big foundations of what we're doing, the Disclosure Project, the CE 5 contact with development of higher consciousness, And then the the the, technology of of the effort to bring out these 0 point free technologies. Those are the 3 big projects that that we've been moving forward over the last 30 years. So I think that's why that knowledge, you know, it it says in the The Vedas and the ancient Vedas in India, knowledge is the greatest purifier.
Dr. Greer If you have the knowledge, it clarifies and Purifies this understanding. If you don't, it's very easy to mix it all together in this, mixer bowl of stuff. And that's what we we need to try to bring clarity to. Hopefully, the archive will also have a CE 5 part of
Pat it Mhmm.
Dr. Greer And, Eventually. Right now, it's dealing mostly with the nuts and bolts and the documents and the witnesses and the sites and all that. But there's a great deal, as you know, that the public has never seen on the CE 5 experience.
Pat Right.
Dr. Greer I mean, there's enormous photos, videos, accounts, Testimonies, and that that that would be included, you know, eventually.
Pat It's too bad also that we can't come up with some kind of common language and terminology because each 1 of these groups that you have mentioned, physicists, the academia, public scientists, they all use Use different terminology, and some of the terminology is so above the heads of the common person
Dr. Greer Right.
Pat That they it's they their eyes start to glass over. And you realize that unless there is unless people start speaking in simpler terms, right, simple terms that everyone can understand, We leave so many behind, and then people get confused.
Dr. Greer Well, if people 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸 at my books, I've I've created a lexicon and and descriptions that do that. You have very much so. And I'm aware there's a problem. I was a meditation teacher before I was a medical doctor. So I understand how you have to create a common language, But then if you're gonna use a term, you describe it.
Dr. Greer Alright? And and you you define it. And this is important. Words do matter. And and words are a reflection of the thought, which is a reflection of the consciousness and meaning behind it.
Dr. Greer And so that is important. And these are all things that are going to get more and more defined as this goes forward. The the the problem is, I think the timeline's getting very short. I'm not trying to sound ominous.
Pat Right.
Dr. Greer I don't think there's 30 more years or 80 more years to fool around as things have been going. For 1 thing, the portrayal of the ETs By our covert illegal secret government is not gonna be allowed to go on much for longer. And if we don't fix it, There are forces out there in space that will, which is a worst case scenario. I wanna repeat it. It's a worst case scenario.
Dr. Greer Everyone asked, why don't the ETs just come and fix all this? I don't know. You don't want that under any circumstances. So we need to take the lead. Humans who understand this need to take the lead.
Dr. Greer And And to do that, we need to have certain segments of society get up to speed very quickly, which is 1 of the reasons for this Disclosure project intelligence archive being online and everyone's seen it 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 there it is. I mean you know? And, It is gonna be a lot of it's gonna be very shocking to the public. Very.
Pat Very. Yeah.
Dr. Greer It is.
Pat If I if I can be shocked, and I've been involved in this for years. Mhmm. I can tell you that it it definitely will be a buckle up, journey.
Dr. Greer That's why I haven't released a lot of it. It's disturbing. I know. The things that these covert programs have done, The murders, the testimony of so many of these whistleblowers that no 1 has ever seen. You know?
Dr. Greer And remember, In the archive, you're gonna see the redacted. Not the people who 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 forward that have given us permission to use their name, But the other 650, the names 𝗚𝗿𝗲𝗲𝗿 redacted, but there'll be a little blurb and then a file of what they've written and what Notes we've made about what they've shared. Right? Now I know who all those people are, all 755 of them, Alright. That are in that list, and you'll see the list.
Dr. Greer You'll also see all the black sites, the map and the sites, as well as Now the big job now I just wanna warn everyone. This archive is going to be kind of raw data, right, that's searchable. It's a database. What I still have to create is to triage. So let's say you have, I don't know, 200,000 pages of government documents.
Dr. Greer No one's gonna read 200,000 pages of government documents. What what we need to do is triage the most important to The least. Right? That takes time. Same thing for the crash retrieval cases.
Dr. Greer Same thing for the witnesses, that there are there are more Important witnesses that dealt over a period of time directly, and there are others who just had an incidental encounter like The pilots who encountered the Tic Tac. Right? That's just a chance encounter versus someone who was read in and worked in an underground base. So the witnesses themselves have to be triaged. And then the crash retrieval 𝗱𝗲𝗰𝗮𝗱𝗲𝘀, as well as the major cases, and the radar, All of these categories have to be and that has not started yet.
Pat Right.
Dr. Greer Alright? Just warning everyone. I'm warning. I'm a I'm a doctor who always gives full information. I don't hide information.
Dr. Greer I don't tell you nonsense. So it's gonna be put out there at that stage. Now the bigger part of it after that's done is what I call the briefing modules. I would just ask Okay. And we're gonna do something.
Dr. Greer Heads up, everyone. Get on a list. Contact Pat. We're gonna have a select number, maybe 20 people, at our retreat center this winter, Where all we're gonna do is go through all this deep, deep stuff, and I'm gonna create the archive modules. And what those briefings are Is connecting the dots across all categories of the most important cases that then reach the intelligence assessment.
Dr. Greer So these would be the these would be the most important things in the archive, and they're not even created yet. I've gotta create those. But we're gonna have a a 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸 event to to bring in more of that. We already have a few Law enforcement and special forces people asked me to create, some critical ones. So and those will be in there, but heavily because it's extremely sensitive and, frankly, scare the crap out of everyone who read them.
Dr. Greer But, frankly, but But, you know, it needs to be done. Otherwise, you have all these huge amount of data that no one's gonna be able to sift through without an assessment that connects all those dots. But that is
Pat That's it. The connecting of the dots and 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗹𝘆 only Yep. I don't know anyone else who can do that but you You really succinctly connect those dots for people because that is where the real understanding of this information.
Dr. Greer Right. So it visualizes. You open the archive. There would be the categories, and then there would be sort of a introductory briefing analysis that would connect all the dots within that and triaged, but also connecting to other categories with a hot link So where it's all interconnected. So that intricacy and that analysis and that work hasn't started, But we want the public to have the raw data.
Dr. Greer We've been rushing to get that, and then, also, I need to get it in this form so that The investigators with the senate intelligence and armed services and the house oversight committee would have, a tool. So look at look at what we're doing with this, the the DPIA, the Disclosure Project Intelligence Archive, Would be like Wikipedia for all things UFO related. It's a massive. And we're we're we're inviting other people to Submit more material. We don't pretend that we have everything on planet Earth by any means.
Dr. Greer But what we do have, you'll have access to, which no 1 in the world has ever seen, except a few people who crawled through my archive here at our place. But, so that'll be an exciting, development. It's an ongoing Project, really. So in, next month, we're gonna launch a crowdfunding site For the Disclosure Project Intelligence Archive, we're gonna set the initial goal around 500,000. It may have to go up.
Dr. Greer I mean, the expenses of the programmers and the hosting, all that is, it's exorbitant, frankly. So To do it, we're gonna need continuing support and resources, or we'd have to shut the website down. Let me just like, Wikipedia asked for donation and stuff. We can't You can't do this unless you have someone either underwriting all the costs, or you have to put a paywall up where people pay a monthly fee, which I don't wanna do. So everyone listening, if you want all this stuff for free, you need to help us Because there are no free lunches.
Dr. Greer We're I mean, we're not I'm a retired doctor. We don't have the ability to just underwrite 100 of 1,000 of dollars in its ongoing expenses for something like this out of what? You know? Right. So that that that's something we're gonna need help from everyone who actually wants to see this available to every man, woman, and child on planet Earth, really.
Dr. Greer I do. Of course, the more people who use the archive, The more expensive it'll be 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 you get billed from the cloud, you know, at the hosting of all this and the the usage. So this is all something we're looking at. We're hoping. Our my aspiration, and this is my New Year's resolution, is to find a way to get all this out in the people early in 2024 for free where there's no paywall.
Dr. Greer You know, it'd be like getting on our YouTube channel and you just look at it. Except in this case, it's everything. It's this enormous amount of material. So we hope people will support that effort when you hear from a sign up for at our website, which should be linked here so we can, you know, send you information about this crowdfunding. And if you wanna join us at our retreat center, probably gonna be later in February, for this week.
Dr. Greer It will be hunkered down in the mountains of Virginia Near the Omni Homestead Beautiful area. And, not great for going out at night that time of year, but we're gonna be focused on this. And at least we have a hot tub. But under the stars at night, you you can do that if the temperature's at a 101 degrees. Yeah.
Pat Yeah.
Dr. Greer Oh, and and the Jefferson Thomas Jefferson's hot springs are 2 minutes from that. So and those are amazing. But I I hope that what we can do is that as as early 2024 comes out, have this site available in its kinda raw data form, then keep improving and adding to it with these modules and triage, But also, create more and more information. We're gonna be asking the public. You know, maybe your grandfather, and when he passed away, you found top secret documents or whatever, or as a new witness comes forward, or a photograph, for someone who's been in a news site we don't know about.
Dr. Greer So as information comes in that we will solicit from the public, We will look at those, vet it, see if it's legit, and then include it. Right?
Pat Right.
Dr. Greer So that the the it's it's just gonna be a growing look at this as a living, Breathing, growing body of intelligence that's not at the CIA or in an underground vault or a SCIF vault, but available to the whole public.
Pat How do you think this will impact people on the hill? Do you think they'll read this? Do you think this will Enlighten a huge number of them.
Dr. Greer The big problem with members and 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸. I'm I'm this way. You know me. If someone sends me a 5 page thing, I turn it over to my assistant and say, turn into 3 sentences. I don't have time.
Dr. Greer Alright. So I understand how busy they are, and I understand that if you're an executive or senator or whatever, You know, you can't drag you can't go spend thousands of hours going through this. This is why curating the triage and and rank ordering which documents, which cases are most important, and creating these briefing modules that tie it together. That, they would be able to that would make it more usable. And for the public and journalists, I've had some big mainstream journalists contact me and say, we'd like to have access to that.
Dr. Greer But even for that, they're not gonna be able to spend thousands of hours going through all that content and making sense of it.
Pat Right.
Dr. Greer So, You know, it's it's gonna be a process that's gonna be a very heavy lift on my part, frankly, To to do that 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 that phase of it isn't scanning and programming and putting in categories, But it it has to be done, but that's gonna be a arduous task that's coming up in 2024. But as we do it and and we'll just keep adding modules. So what we don't wanna do is delay for a year or 2 longer access by the 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸, but I'm just warning people. It's Not gonna it's gonna be searchable, but there are a lot of refinements still gonna have to happen, and we need your help with that. I mean, we're gonna need funding help and all kinds of
Pat Pretty exciting stuff, doctor Greer. Pretty exciting stuff. I mean, this is gonna be like a master's or a doctorate course in, the history of e of ETs and contact, really, for the
Dr. Greer world and for this planet. There's huge sections on it, thousands of pages on the technologies and patents and devices and All kinds of material. I mean, the people's eyes are gonna just, you know, You don't have enough lie years left in most people's lives to go through it all, which is why however, if you say, I wanna know Every whatever is in this archive about Wright Patterson Air Force Base, then we are go Wright Patterson Air Force Base, and it will aggregate across all categories And the whole archive, everything, whether it's a whistleblower testimony, a document, a schematic, a crash retrieval case that was taken there, it would all go Populate it. Isn't that cool?
Pat This is and, you know, the information, I was amazed at the breadth of, the time span of this information. This isn't just the last 30 years that you've been working on. This some of this stuff goes back to I mean, over a 100 years ago, you've got documents in there that go way back. This is gives a complete and utter History in magnifying glass of some of these, things. Really, some of these subjects.
Dr. Greer There's a whole file on, that we got from someone whose grandmother had been at, Los Alamos with the first atomic bomb and then at Roswell when that happened. And when they were cleaning out her things, out of a book fell a photograph of a extraterrestrial body being dissected on a table in the 19 twenties. That apparently were brought in from a prior acquisition of an ET, so that when Roswell happened, they would have some comparative anatomy, And that's gonna be in there. I mean, it's it's enormous amount of material that most people on earth have never conceived exist. But a part of it also is I I think that we're at a point where all this is gonna come out, And there needs to be a source that has curated legitimate material since there's so much not legitimate material.
Dr. Greer And, and I am getting older. I mean, I'm 68. You know, I could drop dead tomorrow. I could be killed tomorrow. So, I mean, I kinda feel like, I won't say who it is, but a man whose whose grandfather was an extremely famous artist, who was good friends with Picasso, He had he had created this archive for his father and for his grandfather who had was already dead, and all this Junk was scattered all over the 4 corners of the earth, and it took him forever.
Dr. Greer And I said, well, I don't want that to happen. So he brought up to me in 2016. He says, who's your archivist? How do you where's your I said I remember.
Pat I remember that.
Dr. Greer Bunch of boxes scattered all over. And so, Sandy, it was good that he said that to me because it sort of triggered that that should be done. And then when the Senate Intelligence Committee Folks in the house oversight and other the the military office for the White House all approached me in the last 2 or 3 years, I thought, We really need to do this. I mean, otherwise, it it's it's been exhausting and expensive and, sort of a a very complex task. But Once it's done, it it will be available to everybody, including the investigators in congress and law enforcement.
Pat I remember being in a in a car going out to Joshua Tree with you. Mhmm. We were going out 1 night to do a CE 5 with a group of 30 people. Or maybe it was a Demi Lovato. I believe it was a Demi Lovato trip.
Dr. Greer It was. Yeah.
Pat It was and you said, boy, I've got all this stuff in my in my cellar and all this stuff needs to there needs to be an archive of this. And I was like, well, how much is there, and you were like, oh, 40, 50 boxes. And I was like, oh, okay. I mean, the idea more
Dr. Greer than that.
Pat Yeah. Yeah. It's way more than It just seemed, like an overwhelming job, but, I mean, it was clear that you were saying this needs to get done.
Dr. Greer Well, let me be blunt as we wrap up. This is the disclosure. There won't be a hearing or anything out of the US government that will have more content than this. The only thing that would have more definitive proof evidence in content would be if the government The secret government programs capitulate and release it, or law enforcement seizes it and releases it. Short of that, This absolutely will be the largest disclosure in history on the subject.
Dr. Greer So the disclosure you're all asking for, we're about to drop that for the public.
Pat Yeah. Definitely a buckle up moment. Mhmm. But I can't wait, and I'm so happy that this got done. And thank you, doctor Greer.
Pat I mean, the world does not realize, You know, it is such an enormous job that you have undertaken for all these years, and I've Yeah.
Dr. Greer Talked 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲.
Pat You know, you definitely have job security. I I don't know that anybody else wanted your job, really.
Dr. Greer No. They don't. Yeah. I tried to I tried to give it away.
Pat Yeah.
Dr. Greer Oh, trust me. I would love to be able to step off this stage. I mean, everyone thinks that I this is something that's it's some hobby. You know? It's it's blood, sweat, and tears as you know.
Pat So This is, like, probably 1 of the most important things that's really been done for the the civilization
Dr. Greer Yeah. Empire. And it it well yeah. And it's it's It's gonna be my goal is that if if everyone contributes so we can keep it free, which I hope we can, and continue to expand it and prove it, It's just gonna be this snowball effect of disclosure through, openly available site. Yeah.
Pat Right. And somebody's Asked recently, they said I think I may even ask you, when did you think that, when was the last time that you thought something was really this transparent happened. And and 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗹𝘆, actually, to me, for this country, it actually was back in 17/76 was the last time anything Yeah.
Dr. Greer Yeah. A big a big it's just a revolution. But a a peace a peaceful 1, we hope. And, So peace in the new year, and hopefully, we get our act together as a species and make a peaceful contact initiative. Our goal always has been to disclose the information and get the world community to make peaceful contact with these civilizations Instead of mismanaging it through, the myopia of of of secret military programs.
Dr. Greer That is that was the mistake, you know, as you know, when I was with senator Barry Goldwater, before he passed away and, You know, he ran for president as a Republican in in the sixties against Lyndon Johnson, and he had found out about this issue, but was denied and threatened. And when I was in his living room in in Paradise Valley in Scottsdale 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 years ago, You know, he said, you know, this is his language, not mine. He said it was a goddamn mistake then and a goddamn mistake now this was ever handled this way in Kipsey Creek. And so it it allowed an enormous problem to develop that just has become a huge crisis. And people don't know that.
Dr. Greer Most people don't realize the crisis that's created, I e, climate change, poverty, Pollution, oceans dying. People go, what's that got to do with extraterrestrials? I said, because the technologies that are behind how those things move. But then you add into it the other problem, and that is we're about to push through a red line in outer space, Targeting these craft, and I think their patience has a limit. I think these civilizations from other star systems, They're not gonna let us take that too much further before that our capability is stopped.
Dr. Greer But they're stopping that capability They know would be terrible because it would be spun by the media and by the, UFOs community and and and the military industrial complex as alien invasion. Right? Right. So they people always ask Very smart people, why don't they just land and fix this? I said 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 it would, a, they'd be blown out of the sky with these EMP Scalar weapons, and, b, It would be portrayed by the spin meisters as alien invasion week on the History Channel.
Dr. Greer It it would be Independence Day, right, like that movie With Will Smith, they're caught between a rock and a hard place. The ETs need good humans to fix this. This is our planet. We need to fix it. And if we get this to a certain level where it's fixed, there'll be open contact beginning to evolve.
Dr. Greer That will be peaceful. And the technologies that could be used for peaceful purposes and not weapons can come out. Be a whole new it'd be a new world. And it's like the ET's yeah. So what the ET said to colonel Corso when, you know, that craft landed out at White Sands and and and the ET asked him to help Stop these tracking and targeting them.
Dr. Greer And colonel Corso, you know, he said, what's in it for me? And the ET said a new world if you can take it. So that was 1956. You can do the math. You know?
Dr. Greer Imagine that we Time. It's time.
Pat Right. It's time. Just imagine what we could learn from them about consciousness.
Dr. Greer Oh, everything, though. I mean Everything. The the universe, consciousness, technologies, healing. You know? Yep.
Dr. Greer Oh, yeah. I mean, it's just we're we're really living, you know, half a step out of the jungle as a civilization The cause of all these wondrous and incredible technologies that have been withheld from humanity. And so The the peace dividend, let's call it, of bringing this out and doing it peacefully and then making peaceful contact, would would completely transform our civilization. In 20 years, you wouldn't recognize it from today. You would not recognize it.
Pat Well, I hope that happens. Yep. I hope
Dr. Greer that does. Well, here's to that. We'll we'll we'll raise a glass and a toast to that on New Year's Eve.
Pat Yep. And, also, this will be this will be available for people on the 31st. Right? This will be
Dr. Greer Yes. Yes.
Pat Okay. On New Year's Eve.
Dr. Greer So happy New Year's.
Pat Happy New Year's. Thank you, doctor. We're in
Dr. Greer the thank you for all your
Pat 30 years 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸 also. Thank you. Thank you.
Dr. Greer You're welcome. You're an angel. Thanks.
Pat Thank you.
Dr. Greer Bye bye, everybody.