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n/a Okay. We're good to go.
Pat Manga Alright. Hello on Pat Manga. I've been teaching here with a W sports school district down for 13 years. Been in eighth grade. That that entire time.
Pat Manga We started we're Jen 3 years ago. We piloted a year, and then we've been on the ground and running here for 2 years. This is Us history 1. An eighth grade classroom, the class that we just saw was an honors classroom. We do work jen with 6 of our classes.
Pat Manga That includes 2 inclusion classes, 2 inclusion classes. 1 1 academic class, all is what that normally ours 2 academic classes, 2 honors and 2 inclusion. Sorry for us and interrupting.
n/a Okay. It was
Pat Manga about that. That is true. So they're the 2 main ones that that we talked about technically, you know, there other... Other areas, other situations other times. Somebody mentioned court earlier, technically, I mean, you watch any judge Judy, you'll tell the person's when when she's had enough of them talking.
Pat Manga So just... It's all situational, but we specifically talked about school and then home as well. Alright. So as I talked to you earlier about our guest today. I'm not gonna lie our our guest from Sarah.
Pat Manga My kids asked this week. Where is Sarah? So they had no idea where it was. But I explained the best liability where you were at. Do you guys actually border New York or not?
Pat Manga Yes. Porter New. State. Okay. Alright.
Pat Manga So I was ready. When it comes to a word gen packet, today, it's gonna be no different than any other day. 1 of the things that we need to take a look at is our normal social studies word gen page today. So go ahead and take a look at that. I wanna clarify our options today.
Pat Manga So you've been looking at this topic all week. Should the Us have stricter gun regulations. But then when we take a look at the debate issue, we we Kipp have it turned a little bit. Option 8, gun should not be regulated. So I I kinda wanna clarify that this this is your You're pretty conservative extreme pro gun stance.
Pat Manga Alright? And then option b certain guns should be regulated. So this this can actually be a little middle ground here when it comes to option b. Alright? And then option see guns together doesn't matter what type of gun.
Pat Manga We need to get them out of the hands of citizens and that's a pretty extreme anti gun angle. Alright? And then... As always, you got to create your own, but just kinda keep in mind b as a is somewhat middle ground. As you make your points this morning.
Pat Manga So if you need to refer back to that paper we used yesterday, Also, the, you know, if did become homework if you do not get it done. Take a look at that chart as well. Alright. Take a look at that chart as well. At this point, go ahead, get your points down.
Pat Manga I'm not expecting that you Kipp word for word from your homework. You can even summarize from your homework, but give at least 3 points down, and then you can also take your homework with you if and when you have to move. So as you're finishing up, just a couple reminders about today. Again, as you make your points, add to somebody else's point, clarify something. We have our our words up here.
Pat Manga If we can work them in, that's beneficial to the word gen process. So if you need to refer to them, they're up there. They're also on your paper 2 at the top to page. So don't be afraid. Try and use them correctly.
Pat Manga And as usual, our as I stated earlier, I up my end the bargain. We get a word or 2 use correctly, we'll have some starburst in your way, either at the end of the period or tomorrow. So Kipp keep that in mind with the word gen but points. Also, when we do our split today, You know, with Word jen, I I've talked to you about this before from week to week, we never know how the split gonna be. It doesn't always have to be equal, but then again, you're also looking for some sort of a balance for these points to be explained, We'll see what the balance looks like.
Pat Manga If if we are lopsided, what we'll do. Again, I'll ask you if there's anybody that feels solid enough about the topic in general that you could bring up points from the other side. Nobody is asking you to change your point of view about Nobody ass asking you to to be a traitor, a benedict Arnold of switching sides. You can preface your beliefs at the very beginning. Actually, I am very much pro gun.
Pat Manga However, I understand the topic enough that I can see why an anti gun person wouldn't accept that. For example and then go over from there. So keep in mind that you're more than welcome, if you do switch sides that you can practice this, that with saying what you're original belief is. Let's go ahead and with side a. I like my side a people to start off over here, for side a.
Pat Manga My side, b people, I'd like to over here and my b and c, actually over here my create your owns, kind in the middle. My D and c, over here, create your owns, kind in the middle. And if you got wrap around the corners, that's fine. Find a seat if you can, if that means pulling a chair pull a chair share. Here I think this is a split we can work with this morning.
Pat Manga I think it's something that that we can go with. Again, if if you need to clarify over here, or whether or not you're a B or creator your drone, definitely feel free to do that as well. Alright? That's something that can. Alright.
Pat Manga So this is 1 of those topics to where there's there could be strong opinions on either side. Obviously, that these opinions reflected our opinions, thoughts, you know, getting frustrated, getting angry is not 1 of the things that we're we're looking to do. Also, I think I said this every time we do work and you guys at at times are at a disadvantage because you're such a big class. So having to give opportunities to speak is something that is is a little tricky. You gotta self reflect.
Pat Manga If you find yourself talking a lot while others wanna talk, maybe you wanna back off once you've had an opportunity to talk. However, if nobody from that opposing side is saying much, then then sure go ahead. So let's... You... By now, you guys know how to do it.
Pat Manga So anybody wanna start off, I'll take the first person that will go from there. Once the discussion gets... Gets going and it starts to die down. I do have some discussion questions up here. It's the same thing that I say to you and we're Jen, I just put them in a Powerpoint format today.
Pat Manga So eventually, we'll go to them after a while. I am gonna put... 10 minutes on the clock to start with. We'll see if we need more time or if 10 minutes will be sufficient today. Alright.
Pat Manga Go ahead brown start off.
n/a On side and passengers because some guns, like, not all done guilty
n/a I see your point there, especially with certain weapons you. They can help us with that's it seems to be the main topic here about mass genocide, because the term shooting is not even correct or think that's correct English general. But the fact that it's what if we had different weapons. I really wanted to ask this question, what is your initial thought when someone buys a fully automatic weather through the store, Do you immediately think, oh, they're gonna commit mass genocide? Because that seems to be AAA common question in the video to watch.
n/a Oh, someone buys the gun. They're gonna kill a bunch of people. I love weapons of any time. And I just don't see how that thoughts runs through a lot what size b and c is.
Pat Manga Mean like sport shooting like target shoot... Okay. Just... Because when you say sports, I can use it log. Sporting shooting but.
Pat Manga Don't
n/a Like, yeah. If you... Some people that buy them are probably not going to go shoot up or Really. But like, it's just not worth
Pat Manga So far so good with our discussion, just 1 thing I can I can hear? However, just for guests in the room, if you guys could maybe take the volume up a little bit. Not you're good. You don't get louder.
n/a Are you aware of the consequences that will happen if you would like to ban certain weapons? Because there's gonna be a large amount of riots or I'm just going to be extreme. But if you're going try to ban fully automatic weapons, that's just gonna lead the more islands. It doesn't matter if we use weapon this because I... I'm just gonna generalize here.
n/a I wanna guess most of the people not all, and on your side have never actually fired a weapon or understand the that. I know that some of you understand general. Mh. Have you do understand the power that's is behind that piece of metal. That is the only reason work here today.
n/a That is a revolutionary in technology. Without it, we wouldn't have various things today or piece I can't give a good example, but the thing reads weapons as it's a fundamental humanity. We are more like we are violent and Nothing's gonna change that. I think we said another discussion. But the technologies we made just to progress weapon and as health things in civilian era and in the workforce.
n/a I don't think that they should need then, I think that there should be more rules to having a weapon car. Because like, then say somebody has gotten and they never committed a car before, but they just came into somewhere we're gonna throw a lot of negative surgery.
n/a Is that your initial thought, Someone has to go they're trying kill people?
n/a No. That's not saying. I'm hearing that. If they're anderson innocent, and they only got. And 1 day they just have a bad day, Just So some of say change
Pat Manga Yeah. 1 of the things after Kipp listening initially by people that are are side b, you're kinda middle of the road. Anybody wanna share why you are... You weren't ready to go side a or side c. Wanna talk about that a little bit.
Pat Manga Go go fusion.
n/a Like, woman like not just this is you're a little itself. Like, that's kinda like scared. Like, anybody
Pat Manga Anybody else from Side, a couple of you raised your hands? Go ahead and talk.
n/a So... I didn't go over to An because guns like Rpg shouldn't be. I for everybody because they could buildings.
Pat Manga Okay. Currently, those those sort of weapons are very limited in fact, out of civilian news site. As far as I know a no weapons expert, but that's not even an option for a rocket propelled grenade right now. But you're... Maybe maybe Dane, as use the reference of automatic weapons, for example, which are not widely allowed to to be possessed.
Pat Manga So you're saying we we need to watch what sort of guns civilians have, even for collecting shooting needs,
n/a and
Pat Manga things like that.
n/a I kinda be that I'm kind of a. Your
Pat Manga own. Okay.
n/a Because I don't think that we should just take away guns because I'd be today, like, I think noah said it people don't or people Kipp people not the guns. But I feel like the cops or, like, the law should be more strict because they can say that they're like, strict at all. But, like, there's so many shootings that have happened in going for people haven't even been, like, cock or like, taken. So we're not... And like, the cops, I feel like they're not even trying, and I might be wrong, but people like, as outside, there doesn't look like they're doing much.
n/a So...
n/a Mh. I kind of agree with Ky well I do a agree pioneering because like, there should be, like, not everybody should be able to god. Because some people, like we'll take advantage of it. Like, when somebody has the power, like, it may seem a gun hour, then they're gonna talk to. But, like, not every everyone is gonna try to go.
n/a Hour. So remember the background check that we talked about earlier does...
Pat Manga Does look at the criminal side of things, but also if there's any history of mental health in in that varies in severity. However, there, how do proponents of gun control say, why don't we expand that a little bit. If we go to our discussion here... Hold on. Let me Let me let me stop at this 1.
Pat Manga Will work control laws prevent criminals from obtaining guns or breaking the law. And I'm guessing This side might have some opinions of that. So how about somebody that hasn't had a chance to talk yet? Go ahead.
n/a No way it keystone down because I you know, there's a black market and like, people can, like import from other countries and get them from all over... Place and people who might be, like, signing them legally, and no 1 would ever find out that they're getting these guns and if people have and they're important them legally immediately, and we have no self defense against it. That like we're going to... Like, I feel like more even more like shit shooting would happen. If they knew nobody at connect protection against.
n/a Yeah.
Pat Manga Some common ground and...
n/a At first, I was a and her my homework, I wrote down that, like, protecting themselves, but... No. That's... Home.
Pat Manga If you wanna... You can think. You wanna. Okay.
n/a Alright. Is that your... For a lot of Is your initial thoughts? Someone has a bad day. They're gonna to kill somebody.
n/a That's not no No. Someone just said badly. Like, is that the initial thought?
n/a No. I what she's like, it should be to an extent like, shouldn't just be able to have a hour. They should have it someone they know it is when not everybody... No when not everybody else knows, like, the person who has it, they shouldn't know aware this Kipp keeps it locked up. Keep they locked up and so they needed.
n/a I grew was sitting like the self defense people dominant. Use that's
Pat Manga 1 of the other other questions I have for you up here kinda goes along with with the theme of of actually having the gun and for what purpose. The president, this is this is after a mass shooting. At Sandy Hook elementary school. The the president of the Nra stated the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. So do somebody's breath somebody that's not familiar with that church example, Cole, maybe if you're familiar, or do you wanna talk about, just the the...
Pat Manga What generally happened there.
n/a So so someone that's been going to church a lot at, like, had a gun with him, and he decided during a session, and I don't know what they're knew. He pulled up the gun and started firing and killed... I think did he kill someone
Pat Manga multiple did
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Pat Manga which Robertson you haven't had a chance to talk here.
n/a Okay. It's only what website yesterday it said that guns are used to 0.5 a year for self defense. And just let's say you're in a situation where you don't, like like, full someone's there, and then you don't have any way to protect yourself and, you all gone. Mh you need a gun to protect yourself. And that's why I've used 2500000.0 times a year for social sense.
n/a So it's used for.
n/a I'm kinda in the middle of a and b because I agree was what you say, because some weapons. They won't hope against self defense. But guns they're like, they're the best... I don't know how to see. I do the best, Thank.
n/a I
n/a feel like that's what side b is saying. Like, no take get rid of, like, all the guns for up defense for like guns. Just like, you don't need them. Like like, big guns that do like, a lot of damage. Like, without you of
Pat Manga Trinity, Why don't you... Why don't you expand on that? You're on the right track? You're good. So what did I put you on the spot?
Pat Manga Mh. So it's it's bullet capacity. I... For everybody in the room, she she did mum that. She did say that.
Pat Manga Full Kipp capacities. Okay.
n/a Same caliber the same caliber. Even if the the receiver can shoot multiple rounds in the various amount of time, that does not mean if it does more advantage. It's just consecutive mall point of time. You can't take it away. Try to drip it now.
n/a That's not gonna happen. You can't just go up to someone... Police can't go to someone's door. Say, hey. Give me every single thing you got no.
n/a Do you know amount people are going to fight against that? But I nobody on he saying. I know but that's numb... I think 24 point yet. The half zoom people love them.
n/a I I not wanna Johnson not old enough of my my dad. He wants me use. And even we always... Every... About every weekend.
n/a We always fired tokens. In the past year loan of used were to use various different others. But does it really matter if it's automatic or not? Like, you can't just in goes away from people. I know you're not trying to.
n/a That's not your complete point just just to take them away completely. Doesn't... Does that seem like a bit you rationally
Pat Manga and what we're hearing what we're hearing this morning is a pretty deep division in our country. This is this is you guys disagreeing is nothing that is isn't happening in our country that that division on, okay, First of all, that there was a time where we weren't allowed to have those guns that a assault weapons ban ended. And now they are available to buy at gun stores, but now how do you walk back from that. That makes it very difficult. This next question branches off of the the first 1 we did.
Pat Manga Alright? The the concept or quote, Alright. The only way to stop the bad guy with the gun is a good guy with a gun. Would you feel safer at school having a police officer? There.
Pat Manga And I... Reason I put the every school, we have police that rotate. We do have police that rotate from school to school Would you feel safer with that? And if having a police officer because of staffing is not an in, not a possibility. Then arming teachers.
Pat Manga Alright? I'm bringing it up. Alright. We're just talking about it. Thoughts on that.
Pat Manga Again, Kipp of be a little bit courteous of those that I haven't Haven't said much to start with. Alright? You're good job? Those Oh, you weren't. Trinity.
Pat Manga What's what's the... And a lot of people have said that? What's the difference? What's the difference? Between the 2 then in your minds.
Pat Manga I think I know what you're gonna say. But I just wanna hear you guys say. Grieving you haven't talked yet. Go
n/a ahead like police What to
Pat Manga Go ahead mention that point that you said
n/a So I feel like buying is done, like, if you want to get a more dominant gun then you should have to go through.
n/a I wish go to that point.
n/a Like if there's on teacher
n/a then like like more and more teachers are gonna 1 for that? Like, I'm doing it 1 feels
n/a I have the question. Would you feel safe and I don't think they
n/a would have been But with the having them.
n/a Like if we do. Mild school, we did have a frame police officer that or a few that was rotating every, I guess few hours or walks or something like going in 1 hour. I have that and arm teachers, you, that would be a big step, that's another thing. But had Yeah. Idea I in a secure location in case it's right breaking.
n/a But does the rise crime recently? Does that really have anything to do with the gun violence that has nothing like, what if we never use them? What do we just weird glorified cross our main form of weapon because we didn't invent it attack in the 14 hundreds that even then it's the same thing. You still ban the weapon just because it can cause more damage than like
Pat Manga bring sorry to interrupt but to try bring words to a close. At the video that we took a look at this week. You know, there were there were definitely different opinions even in that video that we watched with the adults. Does anybody remember what they said at least is a step in the right direction. What did they say that they...
Pat Manga No matter what side whether you were, definitely very much pro gun or anti gun. What did they say that that step in the right direction was Hunter.
n/a Agree on so.
Pat Manga Agreeing on some stuff, but doing what? Yeah. There's a little middle ground there, but by... I'm hearing?
n/a Putting on, is there something in the other person's to...
Pat Manga And talking about it. Alright. Being willing to sit down and talk about it. Not having that discussion that's not even a starter. So by what you guys were doing today, there's many people that feel in our feel that our government needs to take bigger steps to do what you guys just did and a half hour.
Pat Manga Alright? To to maybe continue talking about that and that is discussion. And, of course, there's gonna be disagreement. Absolutely. You guys in my opinion hit it out of the park today, discussion by the discussion, by the facts you use, very nice job with that.
Pat Manga So Go ahead and move back to your seats.
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